[arista]

Who needs America
Novo's Putin is taking it over
with Bigger Missiles.




http://news.sky.com/story/1565148/ru...om-caspian-sea

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[Northern Monkey]

Quite worrying.I think the Nato and Russia may clash on this.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Quite worrying.I think the Nato and Russia may clash on this.

No Nato
must let the Russians wipe out Isis/Isil



This is a clever move be Russia
In USA they are saying its sad America
could not do the same.
But of course the Lame Duck President
is weak.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by arista

No Nato
must let the Russians wipe out Isis/Isil



This is a clever move be Russia
In USA they are saying its sad America
could not do the same.
But of course the Lame Duck President
is weak.

Putin is doing what we in the West should have done a long time ago - fighting fire with even more intense fire. IS HAVE to be eradicated before the entire CIVILISED world is overcome with their toxic and barbaric bloody insanity.

Obama must be crying at the thought of all his extreme Muslim brethren finally getting the crap bombed out of them.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Putin is doing what we in the West should have done a long time ago - fighting fire with even more intense fire. IS HAVE to be eradicated before the entire CIVILISED world is overcome with their toxic and barbaric bloody insanity.

Obama must be crying at the thought of all his extreme Muslim brethren finally getting the crap bombed out of them.

[smudgie]

Am I the only one that thinks this will end in tears.
Putin killing the extremists is great, but he is after Assads enemies as well, not so good.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Am I the only one that thinks this will end in tears.
Putin killing the extremists is great, but he is after Assads enemies as well, not so good.

I agree that this is not a PERFECT solution Smudgie, but it is at least a very genuine attempt at some sort of solution. I beleive that it is far better to eradicate a pandemic disease, even if it means later having to address a localised one.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Am I the only one that thinks this will end in tears.
Putin killing the extremists is great, but he is after Assads enemies as well, not so good.

This is what i think too.It's great that IS are getting what they deserve but it's what happens after that concerns me.
There will undoubtedly be a conflict of interests in that region when IS are wiped out.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

This is what i think too.It's great that IS are getting what they deserve but it's what happens after that concerns me.
There will undoubtedly be a conflict of interests in that region when IS are wiped out.

I understand your concern Paul, but ISIS are THE singlemost threat to mankind which this world has ever faced. and its TOTAL eradication is all that must concern us at this critical point in time. Any secondary problems caused by eradicating this scum will be easily addressed by comparison.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I understand your concern Paul, but ISIS are THE singlemost threat to mankind which this world has ever faced. and its TOTAL eradication is all that must concern us at this critical point in time. Any secondary problems caused by eradicating this scum will be easily addressed by comparison.

I agree with everything you have said regarding IS.I just think that Putin has much more up his sleeve.Russian jets have already been detected entering Turkish airspace and Putin has been doing his usual and saying "it was an accident" which it clearly was'nt.Turkey have said they'll react with force if it happens again and NATO are backing them since they are a member state.I think Putin has yet again out witted Obama which i also think is dangerous.The US will be on high alert watching every move that Putin makes and if they don't like what they are seeing it will definately cause tensions.
Imo Russia is only in this for Russia and has longer term plans.Our media are already discrediting what Putin is doing which i think wether they are right or wrong,It is a dangerous sign.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Am I the only one that thinks this will end in tears.
Putin killing the extremists is great, but he is after Assads enemies as well, not so good.

I am pleased Russia has got involved in the battle to destroy these terrorists. they will seek out and destroy from the air all Isis and other terrorist group's assets and then Hezbollah or Iranian troops will go in on the ground and try wipe out the remaining pockets of Isis resistance.

Last time I looked Russia had been invited by the Syrian Govt (still a Sovereign Nation) to help them fight the Chaos enveloping their Country. I don't care one bit which terrorist group Russia destroys ,I hope Russia wipes them all out as they are all fanatical murderers. I'm not saying Assad is any better but he had, up to 18 Months ago control of his Country and it's borders.

Now after constant meddling by other World powers pursuing their own selfish geopolitical agendas Syria is a mess, awash with all manner of weaponry and now in the hands of subhuman slime.

It's time to drain the cesspit and try and bring order back where currently there is only anarchy. if that means Assad stays in power for a few more years then so be it, he will be gone in a few years anyhow one way or another.

The current problem is the 50 or so terrorists groups running around Syria armed to the teeth killing men, women and children in the most barbaric ways imaginable.

The West really needs to get a grip and stop playing politics with people's lifes, if Russia is the only Country big enough and strong enough to make a stand and tackle this growing and dangerous problem then that's Ok, Putin gets my vote.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

I am pleased Russia has got involved in the battle to destroy these terrorists. they will seek out and destroy from the air all Isis and other terrorist group's assets and then Hezbollah or Iranian troops will go in on the ground and try wipe out the remaining pockets of Isis resistance.

Last time I looked Russia had been invited by the Syrian Govt (still a Sovereign Nation) to help them fight the Chaos enveloping their Country. I don't care one bit which terrorist group Russia destroys ,I hope Russia wipes them all out as they are all fanatical murderers. I'm not saying Assad is any better but he had, up to 18 Months ago control of his Country and it's borders.

North Korea is also a Sovereign nation, would you also support Russia if they were dropping bombs on rebels fighting to free their country from their undemocratic tyrannical leader KIM ILL UNG JONG whatever the **** his name is?

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Am I the only one that thinks this will end in tears.
Putin killing the extremists is great, but he is after Assads enemies as well, not so good.

He's after the oil.

[lostalex]

Someone really needs to remind Russia of their place. They are getting a bit too big for their britches.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Someone really needs to remind Russia of their place. They are getting a bit too big for their britches.

Agree with this. Russia sees herself as some kind of hero... when the reverse may well turn out to be true.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Someone really needs to remind Russia of their place. They are getting a bit too big for their britches.

Didn't George III say something similar about a scrappy group of colonials?

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Someone really needs to remind Russia of their place. They are getting a bit too big for their britches.

and just exactly what is "their place"..?

Typical response from an American sheep who knows nothing about the world they live in other than what they have been fed through a prism of right wing neo con claptrap coupled with a right wing media that would make Hitler blush.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

and just exactly what is "their place"..?

Typical response from an American sheep who knows nothing about the world they live in other than what they have been fed through a prism of right wing neo con claptrap coupled with a right wing media that would make Hitler blush.

that's a disgustingly racist generalization of Americans Nedusa, shame on you.

Russia's place is a former communist country that still has major problems with freedom of press, homophobia, corruption i mean basically they are being taken over by the KGB from the 80's. They are a tiny power with more than enough problems at home to be trying to pretend to be a super power. There is nothing super or powerful about Russia. how do you not see that?

Russia has "annexed land"(invaded and stolen) from 2 countries in the last 8 years.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

that's a disgustingly racist generalization of Americans Nedusa, shame on you.

and Russias place is a former communist country that still has major problems with freedom of press, homophobia, corruption i mean basically they are being taken over by the KGB from the 80's. how do you not see that? Russia has annexed land from (invaded and stolen) 2 countries in the last 8 years.

Yep. It's a corrupt and dangerous country imo

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by lostalex

well that's a personal attack and it's unacceptable on this forum. please refrain from attacking me personally. we are having a conversation about world affairs, there should be no personal attacks.

OK...My apologies Lostalex but you always seem to have a lot of anger towards Russia

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

OK...My apologies Lostalex but you always seem to have a lot of anger towards Russia

considering i am a gay man, you should expect i would.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Someone really needs to remind Russia of their place. They are getting a bit too big for their britches.

Just like America then

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Just like America then

no, America is quite sure of it's place... Masters of the Universe.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by lostalex

no, America is quite sure of it's place... Masters of the Universe.

Yeah, okay..

When you're ready to stop with the arrogant and obnoxious flag-waving, come back and have sensible debate.

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by lostalex

no, America is quite sure of it's place... Masters of the Universe.

You seem to hold yourself in very high regard there. Masters of what?? I think you need to look at other view points. Not everyone has the same views as you and you'd be a kidding yourself if you thought that.