[the truth]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-35111772

women are light years ahead of men at every age in schools and now theyre massively dominating university

there are less than 5% male teachers in junior schools and the fact nearly 50% kids don't live with their fathers, means the kids have no male influence at home or in the classroom..this is massively disadvantaging boys

suicides are over 4 times higher in young men that women too

it is time we embrae equality and fight to ensure men and boys catch up with girls and women....feminisim will never do this as feminism is for womens rights only...feminism must end now and equality must replace it

[user104658]

Originally Posted by the truth

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-35111772

women are light years ahead of men at every age in schools and now theyre massively dominating university

there are less than 5% male teachers in junior schools and the fact nearly 50% kids don't live with their fathers, means the kids have no male influence at home or in the classroom..this is massively disadvantaging boys

suicides are over 4 times higher in young men that women too

it is time we embrae equality and fight to ensure men and boys catch up with girls and women....feminisim will never do this as feminism is for womens rights only...feminism must end now and equality must replace it

To be honest, I feel like a big part of this is actually because boys are far (FAR) more likely to enter into a trade after school than girls are (basically still unheard of) and so girls actually have fewer options? I knew a lot of guys at school who had the grades and ability to go to University but chose to go down the trade apprenticeship route instead. For most of them it was a good choice.

However, I don't know many girls who had the grades for Uni who didn't ultimately go to Uni, because (they feel like) there are fewer alternatives...


I get that there are big differences in male and female learning styles and the education system can be a lottle bit skewed, however, as always, I have less problem with this than I do with the education system constantly pandering to the lowest common denominator (although they claim that they don't... they do... and have been for decades). SO many clever kids failing to reach their academic potential because schools won't effectively divide them by ability because it "might make Little Thick Suzie feel bad". Absolutely nuts.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

To be honest, I feel like a big part of this is actually because boys are far (FAR) more likely to enter into a trade after school than girls are (basically still unheard of) and so girls actually have fewer options? I knew a lot of guys at school who had the grades and ability to go to University but chose to go down the trade apprenticeship route instead. For most of them it was a good choice.

However, I don't know many girls who had the grades for Uni who didn't ultimately go to Uni, because (they feel like) there are fewer alternatives...


I get that there are big differences in male and female learning styles and the education system can be a lottle bit skewed, however, as always, I have less problem with this than I do with the education system constantly pandering to the lowest common denominator (although they claim that they don't... they do... and have been for decades). SO many clever kids failing to reach their academic potential because schools won't effectively divide them by ability because it "might make Little Thick Suzie feel bad". Absolutely nuts.

Do you divide them according to ability in secondary school over there? We do here but not in primary, except with reading and spellings etc, the teacher gives different level spellings, reading books according to ability.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

To be honest, I feel like a big part of this is actually because boys are far (FAR) more likely to enter into a trade after school than girls are (basically still unheard of) and so girls actually have fewer options? I knew a lot of guys at school who had the grades and ability to go to University but chose to go down the trade apprenticeship route instead. For most of them it was a good choice.

However, I don't know many girls who had the grades for Uni who didn't ultimately go to Uni, because (they feel like) there are fewer alternatives...


I get that there are big differences in male and female learning styles and the education system can be a lottle bit skewed, however, as always, I have less problem with this than I do with the education system constantly pandering to the lowest common denominator (although they claim that they don't... they do... and have been for decades). SO many clever kids failing to reach their academic potential because schools won't effectively divide them by ability because it "might make Little Thick Suzie feel bad". Absolutely nuts.

its way more than skewed young boys are light years behind , mainly because of feminism and the disappearance of male teachers and fathers. its tragic to see boys just dismissed and ignored this way. for schools and teachers to assume theyre going to join a trade is wrong and profoundly sexist. they deserve every bit as good a chance as girls. this is a massive ticking timebomb. the more young boys get ignored , passed over devalued, the angrier and more depressed and alienated they become. that means they don't fulfil potential they often turn to self harm, crime and even serious violence. Its up to MEN though to shout down feminism now once and for all and replace it equality and equal opportunity

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

its way more than skewed young boys are light years behind , mainly because of feminism and the disappearance of male teachers and fathers. its tragic to see boys just dismissed and ignored this way. for schools and teachers to assume theyre going to join a trade is wrong and profoundly sexist. they deserve every bit as good a chance as girls. this is a massive ticking timebomb. the more young boys get ignored , passed over devalued, the angrier and more depressed and alienated they become. that means they don't fulfil potential they often turn to self harm, crime and even serious violence. Its up to MEN though to shout down feminism now once and for all and replace it equality and equal opportunity

What do you mean by this? Are you saying boys are being encouraged not to do their work in school and not to go to University? lol I have kids at school going age and that is just not true

[the truth]

Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve

What do you mean by this? Are you saying boys are being encouraged not to do their work in school and not to go to University? lol I have kids at school going age and that is just not true

glad you find it so funny?
the only thing untrue is your misinterpretation of what Ive said

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

glad you find it so funny?
the only thing untrue is your misinterpretation of what Ive said

I find it funny because it's not true, I have a son and a daughter and they both get equal interest and input from their teachers in school.

[Jay.]

my course year is 90% girls

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jaysus

my course year is 90% girls

The girls must be devastated

[Jay.]

Originally Posted by Cherie Christmas

The girls must be devastated

it's not like it's even a girly subject, basically communication, media and english lmao

[Jay.]

Originally Posted by the truth

there are less than 5% male teachers in junior schools and the fact nearly 50% kids don't live with their fathers, means the kids have no male influence at home or in the classroom..this is massively disadvantaging boys

suicides are over 4 times higher in young men that women too

what has any of this got to do with it

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Jaysus

what has any of this got to do with it

I don't understand your question? Im talking about boys and men falling way behind girls and women and boys being left behind , they often then fall off the rails into drugs and even suicide , the young male suicide rates are the highest of all time. Its all interconnected as no one seems to care about boys and young men. feminism is a movement to help girls and women and push their agenda at the expense of boys and men.

[Jay.]

Originally Posted by the truth

I don't understand your question? Im talking about boys and men falling way behind girls and women and boys being left behind , they often then fall off the rails into drugs and even suicide , the young male suicide rates are the highest of all time. Its all interconnected as no one seems to care about boys and young men. feminism is a movement to help girls and women and push their agenda at the expense of boys and men.

this is almost stereotyping though, obviously there must be some reason why, but i doubt it's drugs and suicide.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Jaysus

this is almost stereotyping though, obviously there must be some reason why, but i doubt it's drugs and suicide.

again you've misundererstood my point. Its not drugs and suicide that leads to exam failure...its the school failure for boys, failure to get educated which often leads to their social problems and drink drugs , bad company and in some cases suicide

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by the truth

again you've misundererstood my point. Its not drugs and suicide that leads to exam failure...its the school failure for boys, failure to get educated which often leads to their social problems and drink drugs , bad company and in some cases suicide

I'm a boy and my school isn't failing me whatsoever.. in fact we're given far more attention than girls in nearly every circumstance.. if a girl wears a short skirt she's told "go home! that's distracting the boys" (thus placing a boys education at a higher importance than boy's)

Your constant desire to suggest men are oppressed is ridiculous and entirely untrue.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by the truth

I don't understand your question? Im talking about boys and men falling way behind girls and women and boys being left behind , they often then fall off the rails into drugs and even suicide , the young male suicide rates are the highest of all time. Its all interconnected as no one seems to care about boys and young men. feminism is a movement to help girls and women and push their agenda at the expense of boys and men.

They leave themselves behind, the education system is taught the same way to both sexes and if boys want to learn they will there has to be some culpability, everyone has to take responsibility for their future.
Feminism was about equal opportunities nothing more.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Jaysus

what has any of this got to do with it

The lack of male teachers is actually an issue - males and females think (and especially, learn) quite differently. There are literal biological differences in how the male and female brain processes information. For that reason, unavoidably, females are better able to learn from a female teacher, who will of course be teacher ing from the perspective that she best understands. There actually has been, in recent years, a gradual skewing of educational materials that tend to cater better for girls. I don't think it's deliberate, though. I don't think there's an agenda. It's more a side effect of how the education system has evolved.

Girls hit their stride younger in general, boys excel more towards the pre/early teen years. Unfortunately by that point, many of them who fell behind in early school years have already been written off as incapable.

It IS true that once you get into the late teen years, there are a huge number of young men whose academic results just don't seem to match with their obvious conversational intelligence level. Again, while it does happen, you see it less with girls; bright girls tend to have done well academically.

There obviously are other reasons too like different distraction, peer pressure, and things like that BUT yeah... On this occasion I don't disagree with The Truth. I just don't think it's a gender-agenda issue... More that the system is entirely based around getting the most out of the "average student". It just so happens that the "average student" is of middling intelligence, and female.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

The lack of male teachers is actually an issue - males and females think (and especially, learn) quite differently. There are literal biological differences in how the male and female brain processes information. For that reason, unavoidably, females are better able to learn from a female teacher, who will of course be teacher ing from the perspective that she best understands. There actually has been, in recent years, a gradual skewing of educational materials that tend to cater better for girls. I don't think it's deliberate, though. I don't think there's an agenda. It's more a side effect of how the education system has evolved.

Girls hit their stride younger in general, boys excel more towards the pre/early teen years. Unfortunately by that point, many of them who fell behind in early school years have already been written off as incapable.

It IS true that once you get into the late teen years, there are a huge number of young men whose academic results just don't seem to match with their obvious conversational intelligence level. Again, while it does happen, you see it less with girls; bright girls tend to have done well academically.

There obviously are other reasons too like different distraction, peer pressure, and things like that BUT yeah... On this occasion I don't disagree with The Truth. I just don't think it's a gender-agenda issue... More that the system is entirely based around getting the most out of the "average student". It just so happens that the "average student" is of middling intelligence, and female.

Good read TS. I wonder why there are so little male primary school teachers though? I don't like to be generalizing too much based on gender but I always assumed that it was because females are more likely to want to work with younger kids than men

[Marsh.]

So, in two sentences you've jumped from a lot more girls attending university than boys to comparing it to the higher suicide rates in young men?

Are you actually going to provide a credible argument which links these two statistics?

Are you suggesting more men are committing suicide due to not attending university?

Your male vs female rantings get very tiresome.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

So, in two sentences you've jumped from a lot more girls attending university than boys to comparing it to the higher suicide rates in young men?

Are you actually going to provide a credible argument which links these two statistics?

Are you suggesting more men are committing suicide due to not attending university?

Your male vs female rantings get very tiresome.

The usual false dichotomy from you zzzz the only thing tiresome here is your insincere replies where you deliberately try to derail and misinterpret threads because of your misandry

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

The usual false dichotomy from you zzzz the only thing tiresome here is your insincere replies where you deliberately try to derail and misinterpret threads because of your misandry

So instead of backing up your ludicrous thread you've jumped to a third and fourth ridiculous statement with zero back up. Ok.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

So instead of backing up your ludicrous thread you've jumped to a third and fourth ridiculous statement with zero back up. Ok.

No that's not what Ive done at all, youre lying and misrepresenting as always , try following the thread and the topic for once instead of ruining it for everyone

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

No that's not what Ive done at all, youre lying and misrepresenting as always , try following the thread and the topic for once instead of ruining it for everyone

Try creating a topic to begin with instead of throwing a load of sh*t in one post and trying (and failing) to make them relevant to one another to somehow spell out how the world is run by women and men are being stifled.

[Vicky.]

Lads walk into jobs/apprenticeships after school which girls find it hard to do. From my experience and people I know anyway. Males are much more likely to go into plumbing, bricklaying and the likes which do not require education as such but manual labour and learning on the job.

I fail to see the link between suicides and university attendance no matter how much I try

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Lads walk into jobs/apprenticeships after school which girls find it hard to do. From my experience and people I know anyway. Males are much more likely to go into plumbing, bricklaying and the likes which do not require education as such but manual labour and learning on the job.

I fail to see the link between suicides and university attendance no matter how much I try

Your female brain isn't large enough to wrap itself around this concept I suppose