[the truth]

77 year old Bernard Kenny risked his life to try and save Jo Cox from that maniac,but despite his couragesous efforts tragically she died. Bernard is currently stable in hospital. He was a coal mine rescuer and was involved in pulling miners out of the Yorkshire mining disaster in 1973. The man is a legend and if you too think he deserves the George cross for bravery please sign here. Its comforting to know such great people are out there, It takes a coward to destroy, but a hero to save lives

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-36574757

[Kizzy]

It would be very fitting he receive that, true British spirit from a true British hero.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It would be very fitting he receive that, true British spirit from a true British hero.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by the truth

77 year old Bernard Kenny risked his life to try and save Jo Cox from that maniac,but despite his couragesous efforts tragically she died. Bernard is currently stable in hospital. He was a coal mine rescuer and was involved in pulling miners out of the Yorkshire mining disaster in 1973. The man is a legend and if you too think he deserves the George cross for bravery please sign here. Its comforting to know such great people are out there, It takes a coward to destroy, but a hero to save lives

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-36574757

It does indeed,I hope he gets it.

[DemolitionRed]

I think he should be awarded the George Medal. I think its unlikely he would get the George Cross.

[Livia]

How about the two women who tried to talk down the people who murdered Lee Rigby? Or do people only deserve a medal if it's an MP involved?

And how many people backing the awarding of the GM would be so happy to see it given to someone who'd saved an MP from another party? George Osborne, for instance?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

How about the two women who tried to talk down the people who murdered Lee Rigby? Or do people only deserve a medal if it's an MP involved?

And how many people backing the awarding and the GM would be so happy to see it given to someone who'd saved an MP from another party? George Osborne, for instance?

How about pushing him down the stairs instead then?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

How about pushing him down the stairs instead then?

I don't understand.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

I don't understand.

It was a joke, you seem very annoyed that someone suggested doing a nice thing for a hero

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It was a joke, you seem very annoyed that someone suggested doing a nice thing for a hero

I'm not annoyed at all.

It does seem to me, that if he'd tried to save a pensioner or someone from the Tories, no mention of awards would be made. Seems out of whack to me.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

How about the two women who tried to talk down the people who murdered Lee Rigby? Or do people only deserve a medal if it's an MP involved?

And how many people backing the awarding and the GM would be so happy to see it given to someone who'd saved an MP from another party? George Osborne, for instance?

I'm shocked they didn't get some form of accolade tbh,

Had it been anyone else shot in the face then my feelings would be the same personally, are you directing that question to all or just the people in the thread?

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Livia

How about the two women who tried to talk down the people who murdered Lee Rigby? Or do people only deserve a medal if it's an MP involved?

And how many people backing the awarding of the GM would be so happy to see it given to someone who'd saved an MP from another party? George Osborne, for instance?

They hardly talked them down. According to eye witnesses the killers approached lots of bystanders and had conversations with them when they had blood over their hands rather after the fact which seemed rather surreal of the murderer to slaughter someone then get chatty with shocked passers by. Not sure it was specially heroic on behalf the people they spoke to. Just something that was inflated by the press.

And yes I think Bernard Kenny should definitely get some sort of bravery award.

[Ammi]

...sadly I think that it's often so easy to feel that there are so many bad people in the world/a proportion much larger than there actually is because it's those people who demand attention and demand recognition for their evil acts in the lives they take and the lives they destroy when they take...when we see the very bad and the very worst, I think it's important to also acknowledge the very good and the very best...there are many, many 'heroes' out there, very many good people and I think much more so than there are the opposite of that...maybe they all should receive awards, are all deserving...but that would be the wrong that they were not appropriately acknowledged for showing us the very good in people..this is a time to get it right though because ..not because his act was more brave or more heroic but because I think we need to absorb and celebrate and remind ourselves of the Bernard Kennys in existence at times like this..it's a balance and it's an appropriate balance..good/evil...and if we've got it wrong in the past then let's not keep getting it wrong but get it right this time...

[the truth]

he has lead an heroic life previously, but he nearly died here trying to save her and is still fighting for his life....i hope some of the Ł1 illion jo cox fund goes towards this heroic pensioner and his recovery

[Livia]

Originally Posted by the truth

he has lead an heroic life previously, but he nearly died here trying to save her and is still fighting for his life....i hope some of the Ł1 illion jo cox fund goes towards this heroic pensioner and his recovery

I agree he should be recognised for what he did.

[DemolitionRed]

Nobody is saying he shouldn't be honoured. He will be honoured and he will be heavily compensated for his injuries.

[the truth]

strange how none of these politicians have mentioned bernard in the last few days?
it was his 78th birthday today and he was released from hospital yet not a camera or a polirician in sight? clearly he didnt serve their pro eu agenda

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by the truth

strange how none of these politicians have mentioned bernard in the last few days?
it was his 78th birthday today and he was released from hospital yet not a camera or a polirician in sight? clearly he didnt serve their pro eu agenda

I think in time he will be asked if he wants to give a interview, maybe he himself asked for little publicity.

This man is bound to have some fear and even still some shock too now,being almost 80,after trying to aid someone being so brutally murdered and then stabbed himself too by the sick individual who did it.

He is still not fully fit again and was going home to recuperate.
It may have been felt too that he would get targeted verbally by some as to the EU referendum, as to being used to make capital for the remain side.

I agree with you, they could have been there to see him discharged from Hospital but it is just my guess, maybe he did not want any fuss or publicity at this time.
I do feel sure and hope so too, when he himself is ready he will likely talk about this tragic and brutal murder that day.

[Cherie]

It's quite likely he has asked for no fuss, he is from that generation, the media are to be applauded for leaving him alone as Im sure they all want his story.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It's quite likely he has asked for no fuss, he is from that generation, the media are to be applauded for leaving him alone as Im sure they all want his story.

Yes, another good point as to the media.
Who usually are like hungry wolves for any story but on this I think it shows a bit more respect for his wishes than anything else.

[Ninastar]

I totally think he deserves an award. 77 is no age to be fighting off a criminal/murderer. He's a hero, there's no other way to put it. But I do agree with Livia when she says if it was a Torie who was murdered, there would be no where near as much fuss. Oh well, give the man an award for his bravery anyway.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

I totally think he deserves an award. 77 is no age to be fighting off a criminal/murderer. He's a hero, there's no other way to put it. But I do agree with Livia when she says if it was a Torie who was murdered, there would be no where near as much fuss. Oh well, give the man an award for his bravery anyway.

Oh is that what she meant?... That's a horrible thing to presume, and I'd hope very wrong.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Oh is that what she meant?... That's a horrible thing to presume, and I'd hope very wrong.

Actually, that was a passing comment, not my main point but still true in my opinion based on countless historic posts on this forum.

What I actually mean, for anyone that's still struggling... Soldiers do acts of bravery in a battle zone regularly, selfless acts that put their own lives at risk. They don't all get the Victoria Cross. And while this man is undoubtedly a hero and should be recognised publically in some way, I don't believe the George Medal is suitable in this case.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Livia

Actually, that was a passing comment, not my main point but still true in my opinion based on countless historic posts on this forum.

What I actually mean, for anyone that's still struggling... Soldiers do acts of bravery in a battle zone regularly, selfless acts that put their own lives at risk. They don't all get the Victoria Cross. And while this man is undoubtedly a hero and should be recognised publically in some way, I don't believe the George Medal is suitable in this case.

Soldiers are trained to react to situations though and whilst I understand your point, I think a civilian stepping in when a gun and a knife are involved is particularly brave.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Soldiers are trained to react to situations though and whilst I understand your point, I think a civilian stepping in when a gun and a knife are involved is particularly brave.

Soldiers are humans, they're not robots.

Anyhoo... I've said the same thing over and over again, I don't think I need say it all again.