[Vicky.]

Yeah I am a massive Andy fan and admit he looked a ****ing idiot tonight (though it was the funniest meltdown all series so I love him MORE for it anyway ) and I am not trying to rationalize what seemed like such an epic breakdown over nothing at all but...

Is there a chance that there was a lot more to that than was shown? I ask as everyone outside (and Jackson inside too) was on Andys side. Sam seemed offended by it. Alex piped up (shock horror ) and everyone who was outside, with the exception of Laura seemed to be on Andys side. Jason, who seems the most levelheaded in there was on Andys side, and even tried to chill Hughie about it all too.

It just seems so...odd, that so many would be offended (or understand the offense taken) if it was simply how it seemed to us?

Does that make sense?

[rusticgal]

I think Hughie and Ryan deliberately did it to take a pop at Andys engagement to Ed.... I think that's why many took Andys side.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I think Hughie and Ryan deliberately did it to take a pop at Andys engagement to Ed.... I think that's why many took Andys side.

Yeah I am leaning more to this myself now that I think about it properly

Still a massively bizarre reaction though.

As for the housemates reactions, on DS it was pointed out that they probably didn't actually understand what was going on so took the safe road of siding with the person ranting about gay rights...which makes sense

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

As for the housemates reactions, on DS it was pointed out that they probably didn't actually understand what was going on so took the safe road of siding with the person ranting about gay rights...which makes sense

This is the only logical explanation for the other housemates reactions tbh, otherwise... yikes...

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I think Hughie and Ryan deliberately did it to take a pop at Andys engagement to Ed.... I think that's why many took Andys side.

Me too, as it was happening I felt sure that they were doing that...to mock and disrespect his relationship like that and to do it by also making a joke of something he has such strong principles about was a double blow....they are dispicable the pair of them.

[camertone]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I think Hughie and Ryan deliberately did it to take a pop at Andys engagement to Ed.... I think that's why many took Andys side.

agree, hughie and ryan are desperate attention seekers..
they tried to take shine away from andy's high moment of his life.. and perhaps succeeded.. however, nobody thought the joke was funny in the house..

[sosadbbend]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I think Hughie and Ryan deliberately did it to take a pop at Andys engagement to Ed.... I think that's why many took Andys side.

I agree

[Amy Jade]

Jackson took his side because that's what you do when a friend comes to you furious, he had no idea what had gone on but you just say what the person wants to hear to comfort them imo

Sam only agreed because he hates the Hughie/Ryan pairing...I think the only person speaking any logic was Laura, it was just a joke...Andy literally looks down on them normally and he has been in the diary room today calling Hughie thick

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yeah I am a massive Andy fan and admit he looked a ****ing idiot tonight (though it was the funniest meltdown all series so I love him MORE for it anyway ) and I am not trying to rationalize what seemed like such an epic breakdown over nothing at all but...

Is there a chance that there was a lot more to that than was shown? I ask as everyone outside (and Jackson inside too) was on Andys side. Sam seemed offended by it. Alex piped up (shock horror ) and everyone who was outside, with the exception of Laura seemed to be on Andys side. Jason, who seems the most levelheaded in there was on Andys side, and even tried to chill Hughie about it all too.

It just seems so...odd, that so many would be offended (or understand the offense taken) if it was simply how it seemed to us?

Does that make sense?

Yes it makes perfect sense....since when did everyone support Andy like that ? just like BB unfarely showed only a micro second of Alex visit from home, they prob only showed part of what really took place with Hughie and Ryan. This year more than ever BB are manipulating the audience with their edits.
I was surprised that Sam was also mature enough to see how flippant and disrespectful those two were being.

[hot2go]

Seems to me that it doesn't matter how personally hurtful or vindictive someone behaves it's always acceptable by a lot of people if it's being done to Andy. Things that would be slammed if they were done to anyone else are seen as fair game if they're done to Andy....there's a word for that.

[jet]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Seems to me that it doesn't matter how personally hurtful or vindictive someone behaves it's always acceptable by a lot of people if it's being done to Andy. Things that would be slammed if they were done to anyone else are seen as fair game if they're done to Andy....there's a word for that.

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Seems to me that it doesn't matter how personally hurtful or vindictive someone behaves it's always acceptable by a lot of people if it's being done to Andy. Things that would be slammed if they were done to anyone else are seen as fair game if they're done to Andy....there's a word for that.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Seems to me that it doesn't matter how personally hurtful or vindictive someone behaves it's always acceptable by a lot of people if it's being done to Andy. Things that would be slammed if they were done to anyone else are seen as fair game if they're done to Andy....there's a word for that.

Well said.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Seems to me that it doesn't matter how personally hurtful or vindictive someone behaves it's always acceptable by a lot of people if it's being done to Andy. Things that would be slammed if they were done to anyone else are seen as fair game if they're done to Andy....there's a word for that.

So true,best post of the thread,had they done the same to their faves they would have been scum

[jet]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yeah I am a massive Andy fan and admit he looked a ****ing idiot tonight (though it was the funniest meltdown all series so I love him MORE for it anyway ) and I am not trying to rationalize what seemed like such an epic breakdown over nothing at all but...

Is there a chance that there was a lot more to that than was shown? I ask as everyone outside (and Jackson inside too) was on Andys side. Sam seemed offended by it. Alex piped up (shock horror ) and everyone who was outside, with the exception of Laura seemed to be on Andys side. Jason, who seems the most levelheaded in there was on Andys side, and even tried to chill Hughie about it all too.

It just seems so...odd, that so many would be offended (or understand the offense taken) if it was simply how it seemed to us?

Does that make sense?

I second this post. Well spotted Vicky, I think you are right. There is more to Hughie and Ryan's innocent joke than meets the eye I think.

On another note, I was wondering if Andy has had discussions about his passion for gay rights with Jason, Jackson, Sam or Alex or all of them? Losing his job with the BBC over it and such? They are in there day and night and have to be talking about all kinds that we don't see. Is that why they understood where he was coming from too?

[mysargasso]

Originally Posted by jet

I second this post. Well spotted Vicky, I think you are right. There is more to Hughie and Ryan's innocent joke than meets the eye I think.

On another note, I was wondering if Andy has had discussions about his passion for gay rights with Jason, Jackson, Sam or Alex or all of them? Losing his job with the BBC over it and such? They are in there day and night and have to be talking about all kinds that we don't see. Is that why they understood where he was coming from too?

Oh I'm sure he has. This is when having a live feed would be great because we'd get to know a bit more about the housemates and see them as they really are, unedited and all.

I have to say Hughie has gone down in my estimations this week. Ryan not so much, since it's obvious that he lives for the cameras.

[jet]

Originally Posted by mysargasso

Oh I'm sure he has. This is when having a live feed would be great because we'd get to know a bit more about the housemates and see them as they really are, unedited and all.

I have to say Hughie has gone down in my estimations this week. Ryan not so much, since it's obvious that he lives for the cameras.

Yes, me too. Shame really. There's not much there but a foul temper, a mouthy attitude and a false charm that doesn't fool me any longer.

[*mazedsalv**]

By using such heavy words and bringing up history, "stoned to death", "thrown off buildings", he knew what he was doing. He knows by saying this, none of the other HMs would be "against" him due to the severity of his comparisons. If they thought he was being ridiculous, they'd be scared to say in the likelihood they thought they'd come across as homophobic.

Clever from sneaky Andy. Had Andy not used those phrases, more people would have disagreed with him. He knew what he was doing.

[arista]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

By using such heavy words and bringing up history, "stoned to death", "thrown off buildings", he knew what he was doing. He knows by saying this, none of the other HMs would be "against" him due to the severity of his comparisons. If they thought he was being ridiculous, they'd be scared to say in the likelihood they thought they'd come across as homophobic.

Clever from sneaky Andy. Had Andy not used those phrases, more people would have disagreed with him. He knew what he was doing.

No Slav
not History
it Goes on Right now Today.


And thats because Other Nations
are not under Western Rule

Some nations are now going that way
thats their Business.
Not Andys


Who the Feck is Andy --- TONY BLAIR?

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by arista

No Slav
not History
it Goes on Right now Today.


And thats because Other Nations
are not under Western Rule

Some nations are now going that way
thats their Business.
Not Andys


Who the Feck is Andy --- TONY BLAIR?

History in this country.

I don't know why Andy went to compare something happening in a completely different part of the world to a joke. It doesn't happen HERE, that's what I'm saying. He could have said something along the lines as "we fight for this in this country" and leave it. There was no justification at all regarding what he said.

[ConnieLingus]

Originally Posted by arista

No Slav
not History
it Goes on Right now Today.


And thats because Other Nations
are not under Western Rule

Some nations are now going that way
thats their Business.
Not Andys


Who the Feck is Andy --- TONY BLAIR?

Some nations going that way is EVERYONE'S business.

How dare you?

[arista]

Originally Posted by ConnieLingus

Some nations going that way is EVERYONE'S business.

How dare you?

Are YOU the World POLICE.

Stick you nose out of other nations
that trade with us
We have Workers that will HISS you.


Feel The Force

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

By using such heavy words and bringing up history, "stoned to death", "thrown off buildings", he knew what he was doing. He knows by saying this, none of the other HMs would be "against" him due to the severity of his comparisons. If they thought he was being ridiculous, they'd be scared to say in the likelihood they thought they'd come across as homophobic.

Clever from sneaky Andy. Had Andy not used those phrases, more people would have disagreed with him. He knew what he was doing.

Even if this were the case then good for him, one way or another he exposed Hughie and Ryan for the viscous little queens that they are. If I was Andy I would have used any effective method I damn well chose to get even and he did. Someone hits you, hit em back twice as hard, rule number one.

[sungrass]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

By using such heavy words and bringing up history, "stoned to death", "thrown off buildings", he knew what he was doing. He knows by saying this, none of the other HMs would be "against" him due to the severity of his comparisons. If they thought he was being ridiculous, they'd be scared to say in the likelihood they thought they'd come across as homophobic.

Clever from sneaky Andy. Had Andy not used those phrases, more people would have disagreed with him. He knew what he was doing.

I dont agree - I think Andy lost his cool and composure - I think he regrets saying what he did, he knows he took it too far - whereas the other housemates raise their voices and shout when they are angry - Andy uses words and as a news presenter he has probably had to report on these stonings and other awful things -

I know it was serious - far too serious for big brother - I agree we havent seen all the footage - I like Hugie and Ryan and Andy the most!

I do feel sorry for Andy - its very difficult for him, he is in a house full of Numpties and he is quite an intelligent man - he has just got engaged - I bet he feels like Gulliver amoungst the yahoo's and he lost it.

I forgive him. I hope he lightens up a bit - there is no way he deserves to be the least favourite HM especially over Chelsea!!

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yeah I am a massive Andy fan and admit he looked a ****ing idiot tonight (though it was the funniest meltdown all series so I love him MORE for it anyway ) and I am not trying to rationalize what seemed like such an epic breakdown over nothing at all but...

Is there a chance that there was a lot more to that than was shown? I ask as everyone outside (and Jackson inside too) was on Andys side. Sam seemed offended by it. Alex piped up (shock horror ) and everyone who was outside, with the exception of Laura seemed to be on Andys side. Jason, who seems the most levelheaded in there was on Andys side, and even tried to chill Hughie about it all too.

It just seems so...odd, that so many would be offended (or understand the offense taken) if it was simply how it seemed to us?

Does that make sense?

Its Simple Vicky
Andy so much older
like a Gay Vicar