[Beso]

maybe he just hates travellers, but his hatred for hughie is getting worryingly obsessive!

[Vicky.]

Hughie hates Andy more than Andy hates Hughie I don't understand the problem here?

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by parmnion

maybe he just hates travellers

Originally Posted by parmnion

his hatred for hughie is getting worryingly obsessive!

Yeah because Hughie isn't demonstrating any hostility towards Andy whatsoever, it's all one-sided from that evil sly snakey snake.

You might wish to recall that Hughie was the one literally following Andy around trying to bait him into an argument last week.

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Hughie hates Andy more than Andy hates Hughie I don't understand the problem here?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Yeah because Hughie isn't demonstrating any hostility towards Andy whatsoever, it's all one-sided from that evil sly snakey snake.

You might wish to recall that Hughie was the one literally following Andy around trying to bait him into an argument last week.

he only did that cause andy had made a big song and dance about people gossiping and not being upfront. which in itself is laughable considering what Andy's like in the dr.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

he only did that cause andy had made a big song and dance about people gossiping and not being upfront. which in itself is laughable considering what Andy's like in the dr.

TBF talking in the diary room is slightly different to bitching to other housemates.

However, I find it slightly ridiculous when people go off on one about others being twofaced. Everyone is two faced to some degree..and sometimes its a good thing IMO. Not everything needs to be said to peoples faces, in many situations it would be just cruel

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

TBF talking in the diary room is slightly different to bitching to other housemates.

However, I find it slightly ridiculous when people go off on one about others being twofaced. Everyone is two faced to some degree..and sometimes its a good thing IMO. Not everything needs to be said to peoples faces, in many situations it would be just cruel

it makes him look hypocritical when that's been his big issue in the house

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

TBF talking in the diary room is slightly different to bitching to other housemates.

However, I find it slightly ridiculous when people go off on one about others being twofaced. Everyone is two faced to some degree..and sometimes its a good thing IMO. Not everything needs to be said to peoples faces, in many situations it would be just cruel

I totally disagree with this, especially in Andy's case.

During week one he went to the diary room threw doubt on Lateysha's parenting skills because in his words 'she doesn't want to talk to me about her daughter' yet just a few weeks later he's condemned Charlie for confirming Jason's daughters age - Why is it ok for him to talk about Lateysha's child but not ok for Charlie to talk about Jason's (in a much more innocent way)

Another example is the Jason 'game player' situation, Andy got on his high horse when Lateysha named Jason and he flew into action in trying to prove Lateysha had told everyone Jason was like this and planting seeds of doubt (even though we were shown she hadn't and just mentioned it through one conversation with Charlie but then Andy can go into the diary room and say he now doubts Jason too - Why couldn't he have said that to Jason?

For me the diary room is like sending a PM in here slating somebody but then on the actual forum being nice about somebody. Just because it's private doesn't make it any less two faced imo

[mysargasso]

Originally Posted by parmnion

he only did that cause andy had made a big song and dance about people gossiping and not being upfront. which in itself is laughable considering what Andy's like in the dr.

And didn't Andy first bring up that topic partly in defense of Hughie when Lateysha and her group were unfairly judging him off of what Natalie divulged when the Others entered the house? That little detail never came across (from what the viewers saw) when Andy got labeled a snake and **** stirrer.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by mysargasso

And didn't Andy first bring up that topic partly in defense of Hughie when Lateysha and her group were unfairly judging him off of what Natalie divulged when the Others entered the house? That little detail never came across (from what the viewers saw) when Andy got labeled a snake and **** stirrer.

wasn't defending hughie, he just cared about the gossiping.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by mysargasso

And didn't Andy first bring up that topic partly in defense of Hughie when Lateysha and her group were unfairly judging him off of what Natalie divulged when the Others entered the house? That little detail never came across (from what the viewers saw) when Andy got labeled a snake and **** stirrer.

EXACTLY....

I remember thinking how incredibly stupid Hughie was at that time....too busy shouting again to even realise that Andy, who he was barking at, had just defended him and the person Hughie saw as his ally was the actual bitch who had been slagging him off. Before that point Andy had never said a bad word about Hughie.
Andy and Jayne spoke up against the bitching towards Hughie and what did Hughie do ? Went to the diary room and nominated em both.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by hot2go

EXACTLY....

I remember thinking how incredibly stupid Hughie was at that time....too busy shouting again to even realise that Andy, who he was barking at, had just defended him and the person Hughie saw as his ally was the actual bitch who had been slagging him off. Before that point Andy had never said a bad word about Hughie.
Andy and Jayne spoke up against the bitching towards Hughie and what did Hughie do ? Went to the diary room and nominated em both.

you seriously think Jayne hadn't told him she wanted to leave

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by parmnion

he only did that cause andy had made a big song and dance about people gossiping and not being upfront. which in itself is laughable considering what Andy's like in the dr.

He did it because he was spoiling for an argument and trying to look like the big hero taking on the "sneaky gameplayer" of the house.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

He did it because he was spoiling for an argument and trying to look like the big hero taking on the "sneaky gameplayer" of the house.

Andy is the 'story carrier' and 'lawyer' ()

Natalie was a 'foooo el' and a 'liary arsed betch'

I wonder if I would find Hughies rants so damn funny if they weren't in an Irish accent..I may possibly let him off with it just because it all sounds so funny

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Andy is the 'story carrier' and 'lawyer' ()

Natalie was a 'foooo el' and a 'liary arsed betch'

I wonder if I would find Hughies rants so damn funny if they weren't in an Irish accent..I may possibly let him off with it just because it all sounds so funny

i was reading everyones posts in hughies voice for the first 3 weeks.

[Papillon]

Originally Posted by parmnion

he only did that cause andy had made a big song and dance about people gossiping and not being upfront. which in itself is laughable considering what Andy's like in the dr.

This is what the DR is for, well I thought

Where HMs are able to unload their frustrations, their pet peeves & anger to BB in the confines of the DR.

If Andy was nasty in the DR and then comes out to that same HM and all cuddles and "love you" then yes I would say it's backstabbing and two faced, but Andy hasn't. He lets of steam about Hughie in the DR knowing it's totally waste of time trying to reason with him in an adult conversation.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Papillon

This is what the DR is for, well I thought

Where HMs are able to unload their frustrations, their pet peeves & anger to BB in the confines of the DR.

If Andy was nasty in the DR and then comes out to that same HM and all cuddles and "love you" then yes I would say it's backstabbing and two faced, but Andy hasn't. He lets of steam about Hughie in the DR knowing it's totally waste of time trying to reason with him in an adult conversation.

What about him doubting jason in the dr then going out to kiss his arse.

[jet]

Originally Posted by parmnion

What about him doubting jason in the dr then going out to kiss his arse.

Didn't happen.

[Oaker]

No because he's basic and boring

[mysargasso]

Well, if we had access to a live feed instead of edited episodes and sporadic twitter updates on the going ons between housemates we'd know for sure, wouldn't we?

Who is to say that the two wouldn't get along outside of the BB fishbowl. Each has a series of irritable traits that the other just can't stand given the BB environment and all. And it's impossible to avoid one another completely. The two are very stubborn though, and won't let go of things without getting the last word in edge wise; hence the friction between them.

[Ashley.]

I really like him. He's perceptive, he thinks outside the box.

[BB-J*I*N*X]

hope Andy goes during annihilation week

[hot2go]

Andy is positive to me because I find his irony funny.

[letmein]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Andy is positive to me because I find his irony funny.

Get a dictionary.

[Jordan.]

Every thing he says seems calculated to make the public like him.

[Ammi]

..I'm sure that he does have many positive things to say outside of the house but I think that his gameplan in the house is largely pointing out to the viewers what the flaws in others are, so often saying the negatives...'oh, the way Hughie looks at me, have you noticed viewers'...'see how this and that one are gossiping, have you noticed viewers'...etc...it's a game show, he plays a game and that's cool and lovely...I just personally don't admire that gameplay that tries to make him look good by focusing on others looking bad...