[susie q]

Were the girls right, to call her out for keeping quiet whilst it was all kicking off? Personally speaking I think they were, I find it hard to believe that she didnt realise that heavy D fancied her. Also she has a partner, as does Bear, fairly sure that it will be one drunken fumble that she will regret in the morning. Shame really because I was beginning to like her. The girls were definitely right though.

[MrWong]

The girls were mocking Heavy D for feeling betrayed over a non relationship. Now they are concerned for his hurt feelings? Nah not buying it. I think they are ****ed off with Bear and taking it out on Chloe.

I liked how she shut them down.

[Tom4784]

I thought it was unfair, she's made her feelings clear towards him, she's not responsible for him or the situation in the bedroom.

That situation was down to a clash of fragile masculinities and nothing.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I thought it was unfair, she's made her feelings clear towards him, she's not responsible for him or the situation in the bedroom.

That situation was down to a clash of fragile masculinities and nothing.

Yeah this.It's not her fault that Heavy fancies her.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Yeah this.It's not her fault that Heavy fancies her.

i couldn't understand what was going on. Heavy D seemed to imply that she had led him on, but I've seen no evidence of that in the highlights. Maybe she smiled at him and he took that as she is now his girl?

I wonder if the psychologists have the mental ages of Heavy D and Bear, because from where i'm standing, they both have issues in that area.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i couldn't understand what was going on. Heavy D seemed to imply that she had led him on, but I've seen no evidence of that in the highlights. Maybe she smiled at him and he took that as she is now his girl?

I wonder if the psychologists have the mental ages of Heavy D and Bear, because from where i'm standing, they both have issues in that area.

Yes.Heavy seems slightly delusional and Bear seems to lack empathy.Both signs of something not right upstairs.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I wonder if the psychologists have the mental ages of Heavy D and Bear, because from where i'm standing, they both have issues in that area.

Interesting point.

[Pete.]

Don't think Chloe had to say anything in that situation and Saira was a tad wrong

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Pete.

Don't think Chloe had to say anything in that situation and Saira was a tad wrong

I love how Saira acts like a complete bitch again and she's accused of being a tad wrong .. Anyone else gets called a bully or told they are out of order .., Saira is just a tad wrong ..,truth is she was completely wrong

[Lstan]

Very happy that this is one thread I am on board with 98% of the sentiments expressed

You go girls/guys

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Pete.

Don't think Chloe had to say anything in that situation and Saira was a tad wrong

Saira is a busy body.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Saira is a busy body.

..yeah she was Jaxie but then it's just really doing what we as viewers do all of the time, cast these sort of judgements ..Chloe is now pretty much damned if she does and damned if she doesn't because of Heavy's feelings for her and depending on perspective etc...'she should have been/be more sensitive and considerate' or 'she's not responsible for and hasn't encouraged so it's not her problem'....

[Lstan]

Originally Posted by susie q

Were the girls right, to call her out for keeping quiet whilst it was all kicking off? Personally speaking I think they were, I find it hard to believe that she didnt realise that heavy D fancied her. Also she has a partner, as does Bear, fairly sure that it will be one drunken fumble that she will regret in the morning. Shame really because I was beginning to like her. The girls were definitely right though.

Why were the girls right? So what if he fancies her-shes not betrothed to him, why are people acting like she owes him something. I am not defending her snogging bear mostly because i dont defend any of the *hankie pankie* especially between taken people acceptable but the idea of objecting to it because heavy d is somehow owed something? nah.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Lstan

Why were the girls right? So what if he fancies her-shes not betrothed to him, why are people acting like she owes him something. I am not defending her snogging bear mostly because i dont defend any of the *hankie pankie* especially between taken people acceptable but the idea of objecting to it because heavy d is somehow owed something? nah.

Agreed how can she be playing with his feelings when she has practically told him to his face she is not interested.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by susie q

Were the girls right, to call her out for keeping quiet whilst it was all kicking off? Personally speaking I think they were, I find it hard to believe that she didnt realise that heavy D fancied her. Also she has a partner, as does Bear, fairly sure that it will be one drunken fumble that she will regret in the morning. Shame really because I was beginning to like her. The girls were definitely right though.

Chloe has nothing to be guilty of. She told Heavy she wasn't interested...so is she supposed to act like a saint just to not upset him? If she has a boyfriend then that's her issue...she has to deal with that when she comes out.
Bear is shameless...he doesn't care. He is using Chloe to get revenge on Heavy..and Chloe's too thick to realise.
It backfired tonight on Bear.

[Daffodil]

Chloe and Bear deserve one another .... preferably outside the house though

[Maru]

She shouldn't feel guilty and I don't think she was in the wrong, but it would've probably been expedient at that point to lay it down plain and clear for him... they're in a game, so it's hard to tell what is meant seriously and what isn't

[Mystic Mock]

Tbf I don't know what she could've done? I suppose she could've made an effort to stop it, but I don't think that anything was stopping Bear and Heavy Dick tonight.

[jaxie]

Let's be honest though it was all fairly deliberate revenge on heavy D by both Bear and Chloe.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Let's be honest though it was all fairly deliberate revenge on heavy D by both Bear and Chloe.

Heavy D deserved it... I would have been surprised and disappointed if Bear hadn't retaliated...Bear got em good style... Both Heavy and Renee....they betrayed him so he did the one thing that upset them most....and it worked perfectly

[Ian Coke]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Heavy D deserved it... I would have been surprised and disappointed if Bear hadn't retaliated...Bear got em good style... Both Heavy and Renee....they betrayed him so he did the one thing that upset them most....and it worked perfectly

Yeah, but where are Chloe's feelings in all this? If Bears antics on Ex On The Beach are anything to go by, he'll throw her heart away like a used cum rag the second she gets 'clingy'. Is he perhaps a repressed gay man? Is the only housemate he really wants to 'do' that guy from TOWIE?

[fitz2k2]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Let's be honest though it was all fairly deliberate revenge on heavy D by both Bear and Chloe.

revenge on renee to

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Let's be honest though it was all fairly deliberate revenge on heavy D by both Bear and Chloe.

Although that said they did want t be seen by both Heavy and Renee I didn't buy Chloe's "remorse" in the DR

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Let's be honest though it was all fairly deliberate revenge on heavy D by both Bear and Chloe.

Yes, I think both Chloe and Bear were intending to humiliate Heavy D and provoke a reaction- both realised that he had seen them, and then ensured they 'performed' further, when they knew he had.

For a man of his age, Heavy D is very naive as concerns relationships - however, naive as he is, it is obvious that his situation with Chloe has genuinely upset him and hurt his feelings. He is being over-sensitive, but both Bear and Chloe knew that but chose to behave in a way that was intentionally insensitive, which says a lot about their characters.

I find the whole situation between Bear and Chloe quite pathetic. He has no feelings for her, and is merely using her to get at others and for a bit of action. She has no feelings for him, and is using the situation to boost her self-esteem and to make herself feel relevant. The situation is degrading to Chloe and it is sad that she, and so many others from reality shows, feel the only thing they have to offer is their bodies and overtly sexual behaviour which is designed to shock. I actually think Bear's treatment of Chloe is as bad as Heavy D's, and in some ways worse when motives are considered.

Those in the 'squad' are so shallow, and have no depth of character- they are just not pleasant people, and are becoming tedious and tiresome to watch as the same 'storyline' is being played out night after night as they believe that this is entertaining. Imo, it is not.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Garfie

Yes, I think both Chloe and Bear were intending to humiliate Heavy D and provoke a reaction- both realised that he had seen them, and then ensured they 'performed' further, when they knew he had.

For a man of his age, Heavy D is very naive as concerns relationships - however, naive as he is, it is obvious that his situation with Chloe has genuinely upset him and hurt his feelings. He is being over-sensitive, but both Bear and Chloe knew that but chose to behave in a way that was intentionally insensitive, which says a lot about their characters.

I find the whole situation between Bear and Chloe quite pathetic. He has no feelings for her, and is merely using her to get at others and for a bit of action. She has no feelings for him, and is using the situation to boost her self-esteem and to make herself feel relevant. The situation is degrading to Chloe and it is sad that she, and so many others from reality shows, feel the only thing they have to offer is their bodies and overtly sexual behaviour which is designed to shock. I actually think Bear's treatment of Chloe is as bad as Heavy D's, and in some ways worse when motives are considered.

Those in the 'squad' are so shallow, and have no depth of character- they are just not pleasant people, and are becoming tedious and tiresome to watch as the same 'storyline' is being played out night after night as they believe that this is entertaining. Imo, it is not.

Great post. There was a clip on bots of Bear returning to the house last night. As he walked past Chloe who was sitting in the kitchen he told her she was a rubbish kisser.