[Cherie]

Are you happy that only English and Welsh pensioners will have their fuel allowance means tested at a level that has not been specified...it's colder in Scotland...apparently ...or is it that the Torys are desperate to get one over on the SNP..shame they don't feel Labour is a similar threat or English and Welsh pensioners might get the same benefit

[Kizzy]

I'm not a tory supporter *spit* but my feeling is they are going to make it so hard too claim that many forgo the hassle and just do what the tories want, get hypothermia and die.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I'm not a tory supporter *spit* but my feeling is they are going to make it so hard too claim that many forgo the hassle and just do what the tories want, get hypothermia and die.

You do know how clear-thinking and level-headed that sounds. Conspiracy theories awash.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

You do know how clear-thinking and level-headed that sounds. Conspiracy theories awash.

Erm... what happen to freedom of speech? That is my opinion I'll thank you not to mock it.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

You do know how clear-thinking and level-headed that sounds. Conspiracy theories awash.

It was on the news, May has said Scotland has powers over its own benefits and they won't means test pensioners, meanwhile they will means test your Mum and Dad

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It was on the news, May has said Scotland has powers over its own benefits and they won't means test pensioners, meanwhile they will means test your Mum and Dad

I don't doubt that but I hardly think May wants our pensioners to drop dead of hyperthermia. For me it makes sense to give it to those that need it. If they don't I don't feel they should get it. Leaves more in the pot for those that do.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I don't doubt that but I hardly think May wants our pensioners to drop dead of hyperthermia. For me it makes sense to give it to those that need it. If they don't I don't feel they should get it. Leaves more in the pot for those that do.

So why does not not apply to Scottish pensioners? It won't leave any more in the pot than the 350 mil per week to the NHS it will be diverted elsewhere don't you worry about that

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I'm not a tory supporter *spit* but my feeling is they are going to make it so hard too claim that many forgo the hassle and just do what the tories want, get hypothermia and die.

Kizzy the Tory Princess.isnt it a bit of a stretch to claim the government wants people to die. Usually everyone complains that they give wealthy people too much. Isn't the point that those who don't need extra heating help won't get it.

[Beso]

Same old rubbish spouted in a political debate..the nasty tories want pensioners to die....absolute rubbish..

Rather pathetic and childish to say and think this.


Get a new shock tactic, the bitterness at others success is shockingly evident.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I hope the Welsh protect their pensioners as well, so it's only the English pensioners suffer, the idea that members can't see that this is a blatant move to win votes in Scotland while taking the votes elsewhere pretty much for granted is incredible

Well May's not exactly happy about it and she said as much but there's not much she can do really, its Ruth Davidson's decision on a devolved issue on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives who have the right to make their own decision on things like this

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well May's not exactly happy about it and she said as much but there's not much she can do really, its Ruth Davidson's decision on a devolved issue on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives who have the right to make their own decision on things like this

Just shows how desperate the Torys are in Scotland that they will screw over their leader and pensioners living outside of Scotland for votes, all this talk of its fair that we give to those in need doesn't seem to apply when Labour tries it, suddenly it's a great idea but only for outside Scotland mind, honestly I can't believe what I'm reading on this thread

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Kizzy the Tory Princess.isnt it a bit of a stretch to claim the government wants people to die. Usually everyone complains that they give wealthy people too much. Isn't the point that those who don't need extra heating help won't get it.

I'm a tory princess? :/

No, it's at the core of laissez faire ideology, sink or swim...

No the point is those who do need it won't claim it, either through pride or circumstance.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I'm a tory princess? :/

No, it's at the core of laissez faire ideology, sink or swim...

No the point is those who do need it won't claim it, either through pride or circumstance.

It was ironic humour based on what had been said in the previous few comments. I'd quote it because it's funny based on your political leanings but we all know where that will end.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jaxie

It was ironic humour based on what had been said in the previous few comments. I'd quote it because it's funny based on your political leanings but we all know where that will end.

Yeah it fell a bit flat, if that's your attempt at humour don't give up the day job :/

[Wizard.]

Scotland is freezing so it's fair. You wouldn't give winters fuel allowance to people living in the Carribean.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Riley.

Scotland is freezing so it's fair. You wouldn't give winters fuel allowance to people living in the Carribean.

Are we talking about the Carribean?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Riley.

Scotland is freezing so it's fair. You wouldn't give winters fuel allowance to people living in the Carribean.

It's not exactly tropical here!

[Cherie]

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

It's not exactly tropical here!

Apparently there is a huge difference if you live on one side of Hadrians wall or the other..ask Riley he will keep you warm

[Greg!]

I'm screaming at them being so desperate to win seats in Scotland that they're just not doing that policy up here

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Greg!

I'm screaming at them being so desperate to win seats in Scotland that they're just not doing that policy up here

Pathetic right but even more do that people are making excuses for it it's one degree warmer down south you know !!!!!

[Kizzy]

Watch the mortality rate rocket

[DemolitionRed]

Its going to cost more to employ the staff to do the admin but then I suppose the Tories collect tax on admin staff... win, win.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Its going to cost more to employ the staff to do the admin but then I suppose the Tories collect tax on admin staff... win, win.

They won't need any admin in Scotland..no one will be giving up their allowance

[James]

You're pointing out the flaws in devolution here.

In Scotland policies like this are decided by members of the Scottish Parliament (although a lot of it is still funded by the UK Treasury, which complicates it more). For England it is decided by the UK parliament, including Scottish MPs.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by James

You're pointing out the flaws in devolution here.

In Scotland policies like this are decided by members of the Scottish Parliament (although a lot of it is still funded by the UK Treasury, which complicates it more). For England it is decided by the UK parliament, including Scottish MPs.

but parliament is dissolved so no one has authority to say anything really