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Denver · 25-05-2017, 09:29 AM

Part of their manifesto was that all those who join terror organisations will have to forfit their passport and citizenship for the rest of their life.

Niamh. · 25-05-2017, 09:30 AM

Wouldn't any government do that if it was known they were an actual member of a terrorist group? Maybe I'm naive but I would have thought that's a given? no?

Denver · 25-05-2017, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Wouldn't any government do that if it was known they were an actual member of a terrorist group? Maybe I'm naive but I would have thought that's a given? no?

Not many have been allowed back in

Niamh. · 25-05-2017, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam.

Not many have been allowed back in

people who were actually proven to be members of ISIS were allowed in to the UK freely? Oh come on, that doesn't sound right

Denver · 25-05-2017, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

people who were actually proven to be members of ISIS were allowed in to the UK freely? Oh come on, that doesn't sound right

All they have to say is they don't want to be part of ISIS and they are welcome back woth open arms without proof they have quit

Niamh. · 25-05-2017, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam.

All they have to say is they don't want to be part of ISIS and they are welcome back woth open arms without proof they have quit

That really doesn't sound right Adam, if that's the case then there's something seriously messed up going on with British Security

Northern Monkey · 25-05-2017, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Wouldn't any government do that if it was known they were an actual member of a terrorist group? Maybe I'm naive but I would have thought that's a given? no?

Well there's 350 living in the Manchester area back from Syria etc according to the Daily Politics yesterday so they must be letting em stay.They need booting straight back out again to Syria

Livia · 25-05-2017, 09:55 AM

It's a complicated issue. There have been lots of people who have gone to Syria to fight with IS and then return to the UK once they find out the reality of that decision. If they hold a British passport they have to be allowed to return. Ideally, they should be rounded up and incarcerated immediately, but these people are usually respresented pro bono by Human Rights lawyers and other "conecerned parties". It's aminefield with people on both sides thinking they're right. Same old, really...

Niamh. · 25-05-2017, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia

It's a complicated issue. There have been lots of people who have gone to Syria to fight with IS and then return to the UK once they find out the reality of that decision. If they hold a British passport they have to be allowed to return. Ideally, they should be rounded up and incarcerated immediately, but these people are usually respresented pro bono by Human Rights lawyers and other "conecerned parties". It's aminefield with people on both sides thinking they're right. Same old, really...

Jeez, I have to say I'm pretty shocked about that. I understand that if they're British they have to be allowed back in but they should be locked up, that's a massive risk to society

smudgie · 25-05-2017, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia

It's a complicated issue. There have been lots of people who have gone to Syria to fight with IS and then return to the UK once they find out the reality of that decision. If they hold a British passport they have to be allowed to return. Ideally, they should be rounded up and incarcerated immediately, but these people are usually respresented pro bono by Human Rights lawyers and other "conecerned parties". It's aminefield with people on both sides thinking they're right. Same old, really...

I would say incinerated rather than incarcerated, save the taxpayers the bother of paying to look after them.

Brillopad · 25-05-2017, 08:02 PM

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I would say incinerated rather than incarcerated, save the taxpayers the bother of paying to look after them.

Brillopad · 25-05-2017, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

It's a complicated issue. There have been lots of people who have gone to Syria to fight with IS and then return to the UK once they find out the reality of that decision. If they hold a British passport they have to be allowed to return. Ideally, they should be rounded up and incarcerated immediately, but these people are usually respresented pro bono by Human Rights lawyers and other "conecerned parties". It's aminefield with people on both sides thinking they're right. Same old, really...

I wonder how these Human Rights lawyers would react if it was a close member of their family murdered by these creatures who don't act like human beings and are not worthy of the title.

I have no time for these stupid people full of their own self-importance thinking they have the right to give these animals the opportunity to go on killing people.

Shame on them and their warped sense of justice.

DemolitionRed · 25-05-2017, 07:05 PM

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I wonder how these Human Rights lawyers would react if it was a close member of their family murdered by these creatures who don't act like human beings and are not worthy of the title.

I have no time for these stupid people full of their own self-importance thinking they have the right to give these animals the opportunity to go on killing people.

Shame on them and their warped sense of justice.

Should any lawyer prevent a clients from having a fair trial ?
Lawyers are officers of the court. They can't lie on their clients behalf. They can't give false testimony without being a party to their perjury and they can't refuse to represent someone because they believe they are guilty.

Lets not start blaming lawyers because to do so, is to prevent fair trial. We live in the West not the middle east.

Brillopad · 25-05-2017, 08:03 PM

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Should any lawyer prevent a clients from having a fair trial ?
Lawyers are officers of the court. They can't lie on their clients behalf. They can't give false testimony without being a party to their perjury and they can't refuse to represent someone because they believe they are guilty.

Lets not start blaming lawyers because to do so, is to prevent fair trial. We live in the West not the middle east.

Not for much longer - we are handing it over piece by piece.