[Brillopad]

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/0...cence_changes/

Is this a sign of Labour giving with one hand and taking with another. Just the start no doubt.

[Marsh.]

Is another sign of people wanting something for nothing.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Is another sign of people wanting something for nothing.

like students?

[Withano]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

like students?

Most people want students to have free education tbf

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Withano

Most people want students to have free education tbf

The only people who seem to be very against students having free education, are the generation who benefited from free education themselves

Personally though I guess I don't really see the need in scrapping fees. Given they only have to be paid back once you are earning a certain amount and even then the amounts taken are pennies. My brother is due to finish his uni course and he says even if hes earning a grand a week they only take like 30 quid.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Withano

Most people want students to have free education tbf

hmm, i don't think they do actually. Free schooling yes, after that its optional they can fund that themselves. At a push there may be a majority for paying the fees portion.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

like students?

EXACTLY. That's completely the same thing.

[Tom4784]

I'd say it's more just a sign of people looking for any reason to have a pop at him, tbh.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I'd say it's more just a sign of people looking for any reason to have a pop at him, tbh.

self pity will get them nowhere

[smudgie]

I have no problem with paying a licence fee....better than all those pesky adverts.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by smudgie

I have no problem with paying a licence fee....better than all those pesky adverts.

Same

[MTVN]

Scrapping the license fee is a purely DUP proposal not a Conservative one. There is zero chance of it being part of any agreement or getting the support of a majority of the Commons imo

[joeysteele]

I hate this pathetic fee and would always support getting rid of it.
However I realise no main Party is likely for the foreseeable future, to ever vote for it to be scrapped.

[Brillopad]

I think it's more about it being the start of giving and then taking elsewhere for me and their hypocrisy over helping the less well off. I have seen quite a bit of criticism on here about the BBC and the licence fee.

[bots]

If the tories started championing the end of the license fee and labour voted against it, it would just confirm the inherent left wing bias of the modern day bbc.

[Kazanne]

I don't want to pay it,we hardly watch BBC,anyone who would scrap it is ok by me.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I don't want to pay it,we hardly watch BBC,anyone who would scrap it is ok by me.

I agree absolutely, sadly Kazanne I think you have a long long wait to get rid of it.

I doubt either main Party ever will really.

[Withano]

Well, its not like they have a magic money tree. Tories arent taxing the wealthy corporations, the little budget is better elsewhere.

[Mystic Mock]

People can't moan about there being too many adverts, and then moan that the BBC are giving them a service without adverts that needs a fee to carry on running itself.

It's like all other forms of Tax's, you don't like them, but it's necessary if you want certain things.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

People can't moan about there being too many adverts, and then moan that the BBC are giving them a service without adverts that needs a fee to carry on running itself.

It's like all other forms of Tax's, you don't like them, but it's necessary if you want certain things.

Good points.

The only reason we don't have five minutes of viewing and ten minutes of adverts repeatedly on every other channel is because all those channels are restrained by the BBC. If the BBC ever has to resort to advertising, our TV is going to become the same as American TV and having spent a lot of time in the U.S and knowing how un-watchable TV over there is because the adverts make it impossible; I would vote to keep the TV licence.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Good points.

The only reason we don't have five minutes of viewing and ten minutes of adverts repeatedly on every other channel is because all those channels are restrained by the BBC. If the BBC ever has to resort to advertising, our TV is going to become the same as American TV and having spent a lot of time in the U.S and knowing how un-watchable TV over there is because the adverts make it impossible; I would vote to keep the TV licence.

I have to assume that's either an exaggeration or only applies to things like reality TV, though? I haven't watched TV in the states but I do ... erm ... "procure" a LOT of (ad-less) US TV, and shows that have an hour long slot when aired have run times of around 43 minutes without ads... so that's 17 minutes of ads per hour of viewing, and that includes the ad slot at the end of the show. I don't know if there are maybe more, shorter slots in the US that break it up more? But hour-long televised UK shows typically have the same viewing time per aired hour (about 45 mins).

Having seen some US ads though, I feel like they tend to be a lot more "IN YOUR FACE!!" which probably makes it seem like even more.

Personally I can't stand ads during a scripted show at all. Breaks immersion, breaks the narrative, urgh. Netflix-style subscription services all the way! Even if they managed to completely eliminate downloads for shows that aren't available legitimately, I'd go back to what I used to do in ye olde days - just wait it out and buy the box-sets.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I have to assume that's either an exaggeration or only applies to things like reality TV, though? I haven't watched TV in the states but I do ... erm ... "procure" a LOT of (ad-less) US TV, and shows that have an hour long slot when aired have run times of around 43 minutes without ads... so that's 17 minutes of ads per hour of viewing, and that includes the ad slot at the end of the show. I don't know if there are maybe more, shorter slots in the US that break it up more? But hour-long televised UK shows typically have the same viewing time per aired hour (about 45 mins).

Having seen some US ads though, I feel like they tend to be a lot more "IN YOUR FACE!!" which probably makes it seem like even more.

Personally I can't stand ads during a scripted show at all. Breaks immersion, breaks the narrative, urgh. Netflix-style subscription services all the way! Even if they managed to completely eliminate downloads for shows that aren't available legitimately, I'd go back to what I used to do in ye olde days - just wait it out and buy the box-sets.

All I know TS is, watching popular tv channels in the U.S feels like watching a programme in between the adverts. I find it unwatchable, especially at the start of a film when they give you two minutes or just enough to entice you and then go to a long stream of ads.

[Vicky.]

I hate the TV license fee tbh. I don't watch BBC so don't avoid adverts otherwise I would not mind the price

[MTVN]

It's not just about the BBC television channels, it's also about all their online news and sport coverage and their radio stations. The license fee means that they are able to cover stories and events that wouldn't get any coverage otherwise because they're not commercially attractive

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

It's not just about the BBC television channels, it's also about all their online news and sport coverage and their radio stations. The license fee means that they are able to cover stories and events that wouldn't get any coverage otherwise because they're not commercially attractive

Why aren't they commercially attractive? And why should people who don't watch/listen to any of their content be forced to pay?

Labour can piss off opposing this tbh. Been wanting this scrapped for ****in g ages and I am glad its being spoken about finally. If so many people enjoy BBC content/having no ads then it can be an optional service for those people.