[Denver]

He is so bitter he is going home poor

[Vanessa]

Jealous of Andrew? As if!

[Serg]

Raph is so annoying lately, like he's acting like he's above everyone else and that money shaming is really stupid. Not everyone has high earning and comes from a wealthy family so sit tf down you virgin.

[Vanessa]

To be fair Andrew said he wasn't in it for the money. He kicked up such a fuss when Simone said he was in it only for the money.

[SteveG2688]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

To be fair Andrew said he wasn't in it for the money. He kicked up such a fuss when Simone said he was in it only for the money.

Yup! I agree. I recon Simone was telling the truth about Andrew saying he needs the money. She had no reason to make that up, she had nothing to gain from it.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by SteveG2688

Yup! I agree. I recon Simone was telling the truth about Andrew saying he needs the money. She had no reason to make that up, she had nothing to gain from it.

Simone was right about Andrew. There's nothing wrong in taking the money. But after he made such a fuss about not being there for the money he looks like a bit of a hypocrite.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Simone was right about Andrew. There's nothing wrong in taking the money. But after he made such a fuss about not being there for the money he looks like a bit of a hypocrite.

He pressed the button to keep himself in the house, fearing whoever pressed it would evict him.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

To be fair Andrew said he wasn't in it for the money. He kicked up such a fuss when Simone said he was in it only for the money.

None of them like to admit they are there for the money.
The difference between Raph and Andrew is that Andrew cannot win the ultimate game. Sam could have kicked him out on Friday empty handed..but Sam was too thick.
Andrew did the right thing.
If Hannah had won he wouldn't have said that about her...Deborah has said previously she would take the money if she had the chance as she had had the experience but had to think of her family...he never dissed her for it.
He would have gained more respect for being happy for Andrew. He just showed himself as being bitter and jealous. Had Raph been the 2nd chance housemate he would have done exactly the same thing.
Andrew didn't like Simone exposing his private financial position by saying he 'hadn't got a pot to piss in'...
Just enjoy the 'experience' Raph and don't put people down for having different agendas. Most people are there to win the money..nothing wrong with that.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

None of them like to admit they are there for the money.
The difference between Raph and Andrew is that Andrew cannot win the ultimate game. Sam could have kicked him out on Friday empty handed..but Sam was too thick.
Andrew did the right thing.
If Hannah had won he wouldn't have said that about her...Deborah has said previously she would take the money if she had the chance as she had had the experience but had to think of her family...he never dissed her for it.
He would have gained more respect for being happy for Andrew. He just showed himself as being bitter and jealous. Had Raph been the 2nd chance housemate he would have done exactly the same thing.
Andrew didn't like Simone exposing his private financial position by saying he 'hadn't got a pot to piss in'...
Just enjoy the 'experience' Raph and don't put people down for having different agendas. Most people are there to win the money..nothing wrong with that.

Good points. If Simone was being truthful about Andrew not having a 'pot to piss in' he would have been foolish not to take the money when the opportunity arose. In fact, I'd prefer the money to go to someone without a 'pot' than someone who is financially sound.

To me, the comment about the money being tainted was unfair and a bit extreme. You're right - Raph would have gained more respect had he responded more magnanimously.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

None of them like to admit they are there for the money.
The difference between Raph and Andrew is that Andrew cannot win the ultimate game. Sam could have kicked him out on Friday empty handed..but Sam was too thick.
Andrew did the right thing.
If Hannah had won he wouldn't have said that about her...Deborah has said previously she would take the money if she had the chance as she had had the experience but had to think of her family...he never dissed her for it.
He would have gained more respect for being happy for Andrew. He just showed himself as being bitter and jealous. Had Raph been the 2nd chance housemate he would have done exactly the same thing.
Andrew didn't like Simone exposing his private financial position by saying he 'hadn't got a pot to piss in'...
Just enjoy the 'experience' Raph and don't put people down for having different agendas. Most people are there to win the money..nothing wrong with that.

[sungrass]

Originally Posted by Serg

Raph is so annoying lately, like he's acting like he's above everyone else and that money shaming is really stupid. Not everyone has high earning and comes from a wealthy family so sit tf down you virgin.

Yes when Andrew was getting his back sack and crack waxed everyone was joining in laughing - and he sort of went off in a huff - jealous Im sure. He couldnt do something that undignified as he cares WAAAY too much what his University buddies think first. He is not a nice person at all - its all been an act. Being in pyschology - with others on his course and the way he rolls his smokes - I would say he is most interested in winning than anyone. None of his friendships are genuine either.

[TaylorCallum]

I'm pretty sure Raph is already comfortable financially. I don't think he really needs nor wants the money, but when he wins next week he'll get 65k anyway so good for him .

[Vicky.]

I didn't understand that rant at all and I do wonder if he will direct some of his anger at hannah. He was making out as if if Andrew didn't press then noone would have took the money and that, when Raphs mate pressed too...but that seemed conveniently forgotten?!

[Littlegreen]

Disappointed at his doubts being proven true.

- It was more about Andrew screwing over Sam with the second-chance money.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

Disappointed at his doubts being proven true.

- It was more about Andrew screwing over Sam with the second-chance money.

This!

[Amy Jade]

He came across as very bitter and sanctimonious in the diary room imo

[Vanessa]

Andrew said he wasn't in it for the money, then pressed the button. He didn't owned up to it and that's Raph problem with it.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Andrew said he wasn't in it for the money, then pressed the button. He didn't owned up to it and that's Raph problem with it.

So why would he risk Sam taking it and kicking him out on Friday...?
The guy seems to genuinely need the money...15k..33k isn't to be sniffed at.
It could set him up in his own business...deposit for a house..help his family?
Raph should have been pleased for him..Andrew isn't in the game on Raphs terms..Andrew can't win..Andrew cannot walk out the door winner of the show.
Nobody should hold it against Andrew for what he did...he did the right thing.
The guy is walking out with 33k in his pocket...and the 'experience'...good for him.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

He came across as very bitter and sanctimonious in the diary room imo

Oh yes he did and all thats STUPID hand slapping Grow up little boy.... I think he's jealous of anyone getting camera time

[Shaun]

(he's obviously not poor but)

Yeah it was a strange objection. I'm guessing he's hoping for a couple of things:

- Josie and Simone have gone in there with the immediate trashing of Andrew's CHARACTAH and so Raph assumes he's unpopular on the outside. Go against him = gain public favour.
- Enough people were annoyed about Jason winning (semi true) that they'd go against Andrew too.

But I think - and I've said this to Raph lol - his fanning of Big Brother and all things gameplay is a little bit weak and open to manipulation by emotional influence. It's personally why I've never enjoyed overseas editions of the show (that and I've just never bothered ) I think he's just taken a strong objection to Jason/Lateysha and run with it. The 'tainted money' stuff is a little bit of a weak excuse.

[reece(:]

isn't Raph loaded?

[Littlegreen]

The public didn't vote Andrew as the last remaining second-chance housemate. Therefore the money earned by him evicting Sam is in a way "tainted".

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

The public didn't vote Andrew as the last remaining second-chance housemate. Therefore the money earned by him evicting Sam is in a way "tainted".

The public didnt vote for him to see Josie but he still took it

[Littlegreen]

Originally Posted by Adam.

The public didnt vote for him to see Josie but he still took it

The money didn't belong to anybody.

[Shaun]

I mean, yeah, it's "tainted", but compared to "prize fund for winning Big Brother" is it really any worse?