[Brillopad]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...entary-office/

Don’t think this should be allowed. How can someone like her be trusted. It would also concern me that a party leader would think it was okay.

It rather feels that with everything going on with the sex scandal in the Tory party at the moment that maybe some advantage has been taken of that in the belief that less notice would be taken of the opposition appointing a criminal into office. All very sneaky.

[joeysteele]

Not his wisest move, however this conviction is over a decade ago.

If we aim for rehabilition after crime and if there is no re-offendimg then a further chance should be possible for employment.

I would have maybe thought twice but he felt able to discount an 11 year old conviction, and give an opportunity now for her to move forward again.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Not his wisest move, however this conviction is over a decade ago.

If we aim for rehabilition after crime and if there is no re-offendimg then a further chance should be possible for employment.

I would have maybe thought twice but he felt able to discount an 11 year old conviction, and give an opportunity now for her to move forward again.

But she rigged votes and with potential elections coming up in a few years people will always wonder. It’s a recipe for disaster in my opinion.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

But she rigged votes and with potential elections coming up in a few years people will always wonder. It’s a recipe for disaster in my opinion.

I actually agree.
I probably wouldn't have taken the risk.

You could well be right as to it being a recipe for disaster.
Although there appears to be loads of those recipes all around Westminster and politics at present.

[Beso]

Fraud and false accounting, she will fit right in.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Fraud and false accounting, she will fit right in.

Please elaborate?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Please elaborate?

She will be clearing up jeremys off shore accounts as i type.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by parmnion

She will be clearing up jeremys off shore accounts as i type.

Is that a presumption? I mean, do we have evidence that Corbyn has an offshore account? you know, like all those Tory names that are are coming out? or is this just a way of deflecting away from the corruption of the Tory government?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Is that a presumption? I mean, do we have evidence that Corbyn has an offshore account? you know, like all those Tory names that are are coming out? or is this just a way of deflecting away from the corruption of the Tory government?

They are all corrupt fgs.

[DemolitionRed]

I think its a stupid move.

[jet]

Corbyn has always had a fondness for and empathy with shady characters, including terrorists. A fraudster wouldn't cause him a moments concern.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by jet

Corbyn has always had a fondness for and empathy with shady characters, including terrorists. A fraudster wouldn't cause him a moments concern.

Hi Jet. At best it’s stupid. Questions and allegations will always be raised. It strikes me as courting controversy - very arrogant in my opinion.

[smudgie]

Anything goes these days...or so it appears.
Time for the whole shower to clean up their act.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Anything goes these days...or so it appears.
Time for the whole shower to clean up their act.

Very good point.
It may be the case that on fact for a long time now things have needed to be cleaned up and also tightened up.

Over time up to the present,it seems the rot has escalated.
At last hopefully with all leaders and all Parties involved in addressing and dealing with the whole sorry,sordid affairs,things may improve.
One can hope they will anyway.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Very good point.
It may be the case that on fact for a long time now things have needed to be cleaned up and also tightened up.

Over time up to the present,it seems the rot has escalated.
At last hopefully with all leaders and all Parties involved in addressing and dealing with the whole sorry,sordid affairs,things may improve.
One can hope they will anyway.

Is jeremy leeding by example?...no..and this appointment along with the appointment of the sex scandal bloke kinda proves his finger is way off the pulse.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Is jeremy leeding by example?...no..and this appointment along with the appointment of the sex scandal bloke kinda proves his finger is way off the pulse.

For goodness sake.

The Leaders have only met and discussed plans on Monday.
Politics is rife with bad appointments in the last few decades and recent past in ALL Parties.
The lot of them.

Be as selective in only singling out one leader and party all you like but don't expect others to consider that fair or the only instance/s.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

For goodness sake.

The Leaders have only met and discussed plans on Monday.
Politics is rife with bad appointments in the last few decades and recent past in ALL Parties.
The lot of them.

Be as selective in only singling out one leader and party all you like but don't expect others to consider that fair or the only instance/s.

Its the only 2 ive heard about,i will say when i hear abiut theressa doing the same as i dont follow any party as they are all the bloody same.

[Brillopad]

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk...suspended-amid

It doesn’t rain but it pours.

[Kizzy]

Oh another pointless Corbyn bashing thread.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Oh another pointless Corbyn bashing thread.

Only when you have a closed mind and an agenda. It is a valid point. Is appointing a convicted vote rigger a wise decision when she will likely be involved in future elections. It will likely open the flood gates as far as future vote rigging allegations are concerned. Do the Labour Party really need that sort of publicity.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Oh another pointless Corbyn bashing thread.

Sadly so Kizzy.

I made an effort to discuss this in a balanced way rather than just from selective dislike of individual or Party.
Sadly that apears impossible to do.

The more worrying thing about this is, someone pleading guilty to a wrong/crime,who is then given a legal punishment,duly completed too..
Who after 11 years on from that now spent conviction, should according to a few here,never get given work again.

It makes you wonder why we bother with a judicial system of crime and then punishment /rehabilitation.
Perhaps we should just leave it to these armchair kangaroo uncompromising personal courts.

[jet]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Sadly so Kizzy.

I made an effort to discuss this in a balanced way rather than just from selective dislike of individual or Party.
Sadly that apears impossible to do.

The more worrying thing about this is, someone pleading guilty to a wrong/crime,who is then given a legal punishment,duly completed too..
Who after 11 years on from that now spent conviction, should according to a few here,never get given work again.

It makes you wonder why we bother with a judicial system of crime and then punishment /rehabilitation.
Perhaps we should just leave it to these armchair kangaroo uncompromising personal courts.

Of course she should be given work again, just not in Government.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Sadly so Kizzy.

I made an effort to discuss this in a balanced way rather than just from selective dislike of individual or Party.
Sadly that apears impossible to do.

The more worrying thing about this is, someone pleading guilty to a wrong/crime,who is then given a legal punishment,duly completed too..
Who after 11 years on from that now spent conviction, should according to a few here,never get given work again.

It makes you wonder why we bother with a judicial system of crime and then punishment /rehabilitation.
Perhaps we should just leave it to these armchair kangaroo uncompromising personal courts.

Yes, no, yes, no.

When a punishment is duly completed, it can still carry a reputation and that reputation may or may not cause problems for certain work roles in the future.

An example of that is the care industry. If someone has had a previous conviction for abuse of the elderly, regardless of that conviction being spent, they are not likely to get a job anywhere in the care sector again.

This particular woman deeply regrets what she did. She's paid for her crime and she's probably a very safe candidate to take on but she's got a reputation and that reputation is corruption within politics. That reputation will inevitably raise suspicion in future elections, regardless of how honest or not she is.

The right-wing media aren't going to let this go and her name will be used again and again to blacken the reputation of the Labour party.

Re-employing this woman doesn't sit well with me because of all the siht that comes with it. I want the Labour party to go from strength to strength but things like this don't help.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Yes, no, yes, no.

When a punishment is duly completed, it can still carry a reputation and that reputation may or may not cause problems for certain work roles in the future.

An example of that is the care industry. If someone has had a previous conviction for abuse of the elderly, regardless of that conviction being spent, they are not likely to get a job anywhere in the care sector again.

This particular woman deeply regrets what she did. She's paid for her crime and she's probably a very safe candidate to take on but she's got a reputation and that reputation is corruption within politics. That reputation will inevitably raise suspicion in future elections, regardless of how honest or not she is.

The right-wing media aren't going to let this go and her name will be used again and again to blacken the reputation of the Labour party.

Re-employing this woman doesn't sit well with me because of all the siht that comes with it. I want the Labour party to go from strength to strength but things like this don't help.

It's the way the left wing media works. It's all a great big pantomime.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Livia

It's the way the left wing media works. It's all a great big pantomime.

Yes well thanks for that intelligent response Livia!