[Babayaro.]

I don't remember the general public being as bad, which is odd.


And Luke A won his series, which makes all of this the more unusual. Was it because he was a woman who transitioned into a man, and not the other way around?

[Jake.]

It’s so backwards.

[Cal.]

The majority are very accepting which explains Nadia and Luke A's wins but it's the minority who are horrible and I think it's more noticeable when you use the Facebook page/forums with Kellie and India. I'm sure the minority were like this over Nadia and Luke A too.

[lewis111]

Originally Posted by Cal.

The majority are very accepting which explains Nadia and Luke A's wins but it's the minority who are horrible and I think it's more noticeable when you use the Facebook page/forums with Kellie and India. I'm sure the minority were like this over Nadia and Luke A too.

Whilst this seems true the comments that have the most likes on Twitter and FB are all the transphobic ones
There's a couple that are likely "These comments are disgusting" but most of the popular ones are disgusting "jokes"

[Denver]

They have no hot teenage boys to drool over so take the anger out on anyone that is different

[Ant.]

Kellie's series was my second on-season here yet I don't remember anyone even making her identity an issue on the forum or off it

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

Kellie's series was my second on-season here yet I don't remember anyone even making her identity an issue on the forum or off it

This exactly though. I don't remember Kellie's.

[Epic.]

And not forgetting Nadia Almada

[Livia]

Neither Kellie nor Nadia were on an "all female" show.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Livia

Neither Kellie nor Nadia were on an "all female" show.

It should have been called "all woman". Transwomen are women but they're still male.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

It should have been called "all woman". Transwomen are women but they're still male.

Trans women are trans women. I'm happy for them to be who they are and live without fear and in happiness. But they are not the same as me.

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Livia

Trans women are trans women. I'm happy for them to be who they are and live without fear and in happiness. But they are not the same as me.

And by the sounds of it they should be glad.

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Firewire

And by the sounds of it they should be glad.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Livia

Trans women are trans women. I'm happy for them to be who they are and live without fear and in happiness. But they are not the same as me.

Agree totally,

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Livia

Trans women are trans women. I'm happy for them to be who they are and live without fear and in happiness. But they are not the same as me.

They're not claiming to be the 'same'. Noone is the 'same' as anybody else. And 'trans' isn't a description of gender. A lot of issues with this are just semantics and confusion over categorisation. Trans women being referred to as women doesn't mean they are the 'same' as women born female, both can coexist as women and still be considered different.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Livia

Trans women are trans women. I'm happy for them to be who they are and live without fear and in happiness. But they are not the same as me.

I feel totally different. I think once somebody has transitoned they are the sex they transitioned to - I see a trans women as my equal,

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I feel totally different. I think once somebody has transitoned they are the sex they transitioned to - I see a trans women as my equal,

I agree that they are my equal. But they are trans woman. Different, but still equal.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Trans women are trans women. I'm happy for them to be who they are and live without fear and in happiness. But they are not the same as me.

Or me ,Ive had babies

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Or me ,Ive had babies

had them?

i made them in a host body and then smoked a cigar

[Babayaro.]

Welp I actually keep forgetting Nadia is transexual

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Babayaro.

Welp I actually keep forgetting Nadia is transexual

iirc none of the other HMs knew or were told that Nadia was transexual, they only found out when they got out so it wouldn't have been as much of a topic of conversation I suppose and not at all spoken about within the house

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

iirc none of the other HMs knew or were told that Nadia was transexual, they only found out when they got out so it wouldn't have been as much of a topic of conversation I suppose and not at all spoken about within the house

Yeah I read up about this, Davina was telling the evicted housemates Nadia was transexual in their exit interview but apparently the producers had it stopped after complains it was disrespectful to Nadia.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Babayaro.

I don't remember the general public being as bad, which is odd.


And Luke A won his series, which makes all of this the more unusual. Was it because he was a woman who transitioned into a man, and not the other way around?

you would need to state what treatment

i have seen nothing as lierally no one is watching the show


what general public stuff do you refer to?

[Babayaro.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

you would need to state what treatment

i have seen nothing as lierally no one is watching the show


what general public stuff do you refer to?

Well, I, and a lot of others, have seen loads of comments across social media that are basically questioning why India should be there when it's an all-female launch, calling her a "he", etc. Then you just have to look at Rob's thread too.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Babayaro.

Well, I, and a lot of others, have seen loads of comments across social media that are basically questioning why Indis should be there when it's an all-female launch, calling her a "he", etc. Then you just have to look at Rob's thread too.

well Rob gave like 3 examples from facebook but that is hardly evidence

its more an expose of facebook comments than anything else