[Crimson Dynamo]

boak

Is it me or is she or the prods trying to shove her palid naked body at us in every bloody scene?

and as for that "dress" she wore last night at the table, jesus wept

I guess you cant buy style..

[waterhog]

you got to understand what she has gone through and LT - india is unaware of what CBB will show of her - she is not choosing to show them clips.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by waterhog

you got to understand what she has gone through and LT - india is unaware of what CBB will show of her - she is not choosing to show them clips.

she chose that vile dress with half her guts hanging out and she chooses how to walk around in the house. She also knows she is on camera.

I dont see Ann doing this?

[chuff me dizzy]

If I hear the word "Transition" one more bloody time my tv screen is through ,and to think TAXPAYERS money in an already crumbling NHS paid for the op when people with cancer and heart problems can't get their operations ,and if after all this TAXPAYERS money has been spent and the result was what we can see i would say its been wasted

[Babayaro.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

If I hear the word "Transition" one more bloody time my tv screen is through ,and to think TAXPAYERS money in an already crumbling NHS paid for the op when people with cancer and heart problems can't get their operations ,and if after all this TAXPAYERS money has been spent and the result was what we can see i would say its been wasted

A tad of an overreaction.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Babayaro.

A tad of a overreaction.

Tell that to the people who have to wait in the queue for theatre time for medical operations ,while the surgeons time is spent on her ego

[Babayaro.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Tell that to the people who have to wait in the queue for theatre time for medical operations ,while the surgeons time is spent on her ego

You're looking into it all way too much, I'm afraid

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Babayaro.

You're looking into it all way too much, I'm afraid

I dont think so

[waterhog]

has ann has the trauma india has been through ? point made.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by waterhog

has ann has the trauma india has been through ? point made.

Trauma ? Get a grip love ,being told you have cancer or you are terminably ill is a trauma

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by waterhog

has ann has the trauma india has been through ? point made.

yes, ann has had one romance in her whole life, she wanted children and love but probably due to her shyness and upbringing she denied herself that and focussed on her politics. she seems every bit a tortured soul as India

[GreenIce]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes, ann has had one romance in her whole life, she wanted children and love but probably due to her shyness and upbringing she denied herself that and focussed on her politics. she seems every bit a tortured soul as India

And she was regularly referred to as "Doris Karloff" in the press, that has to hurt even a woman as tough as Ann.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by GreenIce

And she was regularly referred to as "Doris Karloff" in the press, that has to hurt even a woman as tough as Ann.

yes she has had far worse than India has ever had yet India seems to think her "journey" is a unique thing of suffering

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by waterhog

has ann has the trauma india has been through ? point made.

I think you are doing Ann a great disservice saying that hog. She wanted children but never had them. She has worked as a woman in a very male dominant world probably early on against a great deal of struggle and prejudice.

Are you implying that only people who choose to change gender feel trauma?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I think you are doing Ann a great disservice saying that hog. She wanted children but never had them. She has worked as a woman in a very male dominant world probably early on against a great deal of struggle and prejudice.

Are you implying that only people who choose to change gender feel trauma?

Kind of hard to see this when Ann herself said she's never faced any prejudice as a woman in her political career.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by waterhog

has ann has the trauma india has been through ? point made.

Has India been through the same Trauma as Ann? No. She didn't grow up as a woman, fighting prejudice and discrimination especially when Ann grew up. India grew up as a man with all the advantages that brings. And she is still a newsreader. A job she acquired years ago when she was a man.

She has a teenage son who she has admitted is struggling with her transition and she thought the best way to tackle that was to go on to CBB and wander around wearing next to nothing. I am tired of looking at her partially naked body. She is an attention seeker and I don't think she's going to be any kind of help to the transgender community because she's self-absorbed and obnoxious.

[odd sock]

Originally Posted by Livia

Has India been through the same Trauma as Ann? No. She didn't grow up as a woman, fighting prejudice and discrimination especially when Ann grew up. India grew up as a man with all the advantages that brings. And she is still a newsreader. A job she acquired years ago when she was a man.

She has a teenage son who she has admitted is struggling with her transition and she thought the best way to tackle that was to go on to CBB and wander around wearing next to nothing. I am tired of looking at her partially naked body. She is an attention seeker and I don't think she's going to be any kind of help to the transgender community because she's self-absorbed and obnoxious.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Has India been through the same Trauma as Ann? No. She didn't grow up as a woman, fighting prejudice and discrimination especially when Ann grew up. India grew up as a man with all the advantages that brings. And she is still a newsreader. A job she acquired years ago when she was a man.

She has a teenage son who she has admitted is struggling with her transition and she thought the best way to tackle that was to go on to CBB and wander around wearing next to nothing. I am tired of looking at her partially naked body. She is an attention seeker and I don't think she's going to be any kind of help to the transgender community because she's self-absorbed and obnoxious.

Im sick of hearing that she's brave ( did she run in a burning house to rescue a baby ? No she didn't ) she had trauma, (so have cancer patients who have had their benefits stopped and been made to take a job) has she ever lived a life where she cannot pay her bills and lost her home ? No she hasn't, she's CHOSEN to swap sex at the age of 50 ,clearly upsetting her son ... She a selfish person who has put herself before her child, she's knows nothing of real trauma

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

She a selfish person who has put herself before her child, she's knows nothing of real trauma

welp

She can choose to live her life as she wishes

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by reece(:

welp

She can choose to live her life as she wishes

Yes she can ,as long as she damn well pays for the pleasure

[Livia]

Originally Posted by reece(:

welp

She can choose to live her life as she wishes

And we can all judge her like Judy for disregarding the feelings and wellbeing of her son and sticking herself on telly.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Im sick of hearing that she's brave ( did she run in a burning house to rescue a baby ? No she didn't ) she had trauma, (so have cancer patients who have had their benefits stopped and been made to take a job) has she ever lived a life where she cannot pay her bills and lost her home ? No she hasn't, she's CHOSEN to swap sex at the age of 50 ,clearly upsetting her son ... She a selfish person who has put herself before her child, she's knows nothing of real trauma

Yes lot's of people have experienced trauma, it's not a competition.

Waterhog clearly only used Ann as a comparison on the basis of India's trauma being to do with issues relating to her body, and the question being asked of why Ann doesn't view or show her body in the same way as India does. It was a perfectly reasonable comment based on the comparison already made and wasn't meant to take anything away from Ann's experiences or cancer patients!

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

Yes lot's of people have experienced trauma, it's not a competition.

Waterhog clearly only used Ann as a comparison on the basis of India's trauma being to do with issues relating to her body, and the question being asked of why Ann doesn't view or show her body in the same way as India does. It was a perfectly reasonable comment based on the comparison already made and wasn't meant to take anything away from Ann's experiences or cancer patients!

India CHOSES to show her body

[Babayaro.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Im sick of hearing that she's brave ( did she run in a burning house to rescue a baby ? No she didn't ) she had trauma, (so have cancer patients who have had their benefits stopped and been made to take a job) has she ever lived a life where she cannot pay her bills and lost her home ? No she hasn't, she's CHOSEN to swap sex at the age of 50 ,clearly upsetting her son ... She a selfish person who has put herself before her child, she's knows nothing of real trauma

All of this is absolutely ridiculous. Deary me.

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Livia

Has India been through the same Trauma as Ann? No. She didn't grow up as a woman, fighting prejudice and discrimination especially when Ann grew up. India grew up as a man with all the advantages that brings. And she is still a newsreader. A job she acquired years ago when she was a man.

She has a teenage son who she has admitted is struggling with her transition and she thought the best way to tackle that was to go on to CBB and wander around wearing next to nothing. I am tired of looking at her partially naked body. She is an attention seeker and I don't think she's going to be any kind of help to the transgender community because she's self-absorbed and obnoxious.

Yes i agree , where is her understanding of her son, getting yer tits out at every opportunity is hardly going to repair a fractured relationship - this is all about her getting airtime - god knows why but its certainly not about her son.