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Underscore · 24-01-2018, 02:32 PM

How would you vote?

Personally, I love the Royal Family and I think they do a lot of good for the country especially the Queen and the younger gen (Will and Kate especially).

However, I would have to think about my vote, but I would definitely lean towards voting to keep the monarchy.

I also believe the nationwide vote would be to keep the monarchy to a much more decisive margin than Brexit.

Poll incoming

Withano · 24-01-2018, 02:36 PM

Idc either way really, I would say yes cos they dont affect me much, and cos they bring in money from all the tourism. But I could be persuaded to vote the other way or not vote at all.

Northern Monkey · 24-01-2018, 02:45 PM

It’s weird cos i have next to no interest in them but....

I’d miss em if they weren’t there

user104658 · 24-01-2018, 03:03 PM

No, no matter how much tradition they represent or money they bring in, at their very core they represent the idea that "some people are born better". Which is toxic and wrong in any modern society.

Vicky. · 24-01-2018, 03:06 PM

Not bothered at all about this.

Cherie · 24-01-2018, 03:09 PM

Yes because they are only figureheads, bring in a lot in Tourism, and the Monarchy is part of British history

Livia · 24-01-2018, 03:41 PM

Keep them. It's not just tourism, it's international diplomacy, they employ a huge amount of people, they are charity patrons, they highlight and give a platform to a range of issues... like Kate, William and Harry's work with mental health... I could go on. I think they're value for money... and I like the system as it is.

smudgie · 24-01-2018, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

Keep them. It's not just tourism, it's international diplomacy, they employ a huge amount of people, they are charity patrons, they highlight and give a platform to a range of issues... like Kate, William and Harry's work with mental health... I could go on. I think they're value for money... and I like the system as it is.

All the above.

Alf · 24-01-2018, 03:42 PM

She comes with an Army, a Navy and an Air force that will defend her to the last.

Livia · 24-01-2018, 03:53 PM

Oh, well said, Alfie.

Underscore · 24-01-2018, 03:58 PM

By what margin do you guys think we would keep (or lose) the monarchy?

I think it would be around 70-80% keep and 20-30% get rid of.

Livia · 24-01-2018, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Underscore

By what margin do you guys think we would keep (or lose) the monarchy?

I think it would be around 70-80% keep and 20-30% get rid of.

I agree it'd be around that percentage. Australia had a referendum on the monarchy, didn't they, and it was about 55 for and 45 against even after a huge Republican campaign over many years. I think if we had a referendum in the UK it'd be much like you've said.

Underscore · 24-01-2018, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

I agree it'd be around that percentage. Australia had a referendum on the monarchy, didn't they, and it was about 55 for and 45 against even after a huge Republican campaign over many years. I think if we had a referendum in the UK it'd be much like you've said.

Yeah but it's important not to get complacent, complacency is the worst thing that can happen to a campaign in politics, easily can hand close results

joeysteele · 24-01-2018, 04:54 PM

I am firmly in favour of keeping the Monarchy.
I'd hate to see a vote to abolish it.

user104658 · 24-01-2018, 05:13 PM

Oh of course any referendum on it would be heavily in favour of Li'l George and Co.

"Subordination to ones betters" is heavily built into the general British psyche. Sadly.

Cherie · 24-01-2018, 05:36 PM

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Oh of course any referendum on it would be heavily in favour of Li'l George and Co.

"Subordination to ones betters" is heavily built into the general British psyche. Sadly.

I don't think many people these days feel they are better than them, just like someone who reaches celebrity status they have been dealt a different hand of cards, good luck to them would I swop and want my every move scrutinised..nope

user104658 · 24-01-2018, 06:45 PM

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I don't think many people these days feel they are better than them, just like someone who reaches celebrity status they have been dealt a different hand of cards, good luck to them would I swop and want my every move scrutinised..nope

The fawning and obsessing over the Royal children would suggest otherwise, surely. However I do think that a lot of people consider celebrities in general to be a somehow "upper tier" of humans, which is obviously nonsense. I just personally believe that the entire notion of monarchy feeds heavily into that mindset.

Idolising and elevating people because of their bloodline isn't particularly healthy behaviour for anyone.

Niamh. · 24-01-2018, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

I don't think many people these days feel they are better than them, just like someone who reaches celebrity status they have been dealt a different hand of cards, good luck to them would I swop and want my every move scrutinised..nope

Have you read the Meghan marrying Harry thread?

Livia · 25-01-2018, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Oh of course any referendum on it would be heavily in favour of Li'l George and Co.

"Subordination to ones betters" is heavily built into the general British psyche. Sadly.

Maybe 100 years ago. The days when a Duchess could go down the the East End in a big hat and the locals would come out tugging their collective forelocks is well and truly over. That's a very dated view of the British, in my opinion.

I had the privilege to work with the Prince's Trust when I left uni, and it really does change the lives of young people. I don't think Charlie gets nearly enough credit for that.

Cherie · 25-01-2018, 10:11 AM

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I would vote to keep. I dont look up to them nor do i know anyone that does. They bring an awful lots of tourism to our country, do a lot for charities here and abroad and also keep a link with other countries that we may not have had or kept.

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]Maybe 100 years ago. The days when a Duchess could go down the the East End in a big hat and the locals would come out tugging their collective forelocks is well and truly over.[/B] That's a very dated view of the British, in my opinion.

I had the privilege to work with the Prince's Trust when I left uni, and it really does change the lives of young people. I don't think Charlie gets nearly enough credit for that.

When people go to see them going into church or whatever they do is it any different to the people who line the red carpet at movie premiers...I wouldn't indulge in either but for some people it's what they want to do, no different to following someones every move on Twitter

Ellen · 25-01-2018, 11:14 AM

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When people go to see them going into church or whatever they do is it any different to the people who line the red carpet at movie premiers...I wouldn't indulge in either but for some people it's what they want to do, no different to following someones every move on Twitter

Exactly Cherie

user104658 · 25-01-2018, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia

Maybe 100 years ago. The days when a Duchess could go down the the East End in a big hat and the locals would come out tugging their collective forelocks is well and truly over. That's a very dated view of the British, in my opinion.

Only because these days people don't have to bother leaving their homes to do it... they can just sit at home and wank at their telly.