[luvjustin]

And YES they are part of the gay community and YES they are representing said community. Whether they like it or not.

Amanda especially just refuses to accept that people like Anne could have made her life very different if they had gotten their way. Just like India she refuses to acknowledge the work of gay people who have come before her. Things like this matter.

“I’m fine dear, nothing to do with me” The attitude stinks. She has lived her life as somewhat of a pampered celebrity so yeah, maybe she hasn’t been affected so much but the rights she now holds certainly have.

Shane mentioned women’s rights and the Amanda’s first response is “and men’s rights!” Says it all really. She’s the sort of person to respond to “black lives matter” with “all lives matter”. Missing the point completely.

It all makes me very sad, especially coming from older gay people.

[Vicky.]

Why the bloody hell do they have to be representatives of the gay community? just because they are gay? This means you have to be representing gay issues constantly rather than just being yourself?!

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Why the bloody hell do they have to be representatives of the gay community? just because they are gay? This means you have to be representing gay issues constantly rather than just being yourself?!

Yeah this for me too really. I don't want people in CBB to represent me I just want to watch a light entertainment show. I don't think any housemate has ever represented a 'community' in Big Brother, which shows that aside from their sexuality they're all just individual people. It's great to have a cause and everything but people don't need to have one and they certainly shouldn't be held to different standards based on their sexuality.

[pontyboi]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Why the bloody hell do they have to be representatives of the gay community? just because they are gay? This means you have to be representing gay issues constantly rather than just being yourself?!

Being gay is being yourself. Look it's nice for Anne and Amanda to be friends but at the end of the day Anne voted against her friend aka Amanda being able to marry someone she loves....isn't that pretty simple and very wrong?

Imo that's just wrong.

Anyone who disagrees with that needs their heads checked.

I heart that we can all co igsuist but Anne and many people out there's views are just ****ing bigoted and bordering on hate.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by pontyboi

Being gay is being yourself. Look it's nice for Anne and Amanda to be friends but at the end of the day Anne voted against her friend aka Amanda being able to marry someone she loves....isn't that pretty simple and very wrong?

Imo that's just wrong.

Anyone who disagrees with that needs their heads checked.

I heart that we can all co igsuist but Anne and many people out there's views are just ****ing bigoted and bordering on hate.

Well of course, but every year we get these 'X is a bad/good representation for the gay community' when surely..most do not go in to represent the gay community to start with. IDK it seems a bit weird to me I guess. Obviously women are not a minority in the way gay people are but I cannot imagine going in and being expected to be a 'representative'. Its the same with black housemates actually..always get the 'X is making the black community look bad/good' or something when to me no, they are making themselves look bad, not a community. If that makes sense?

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Well of course, but every year we get these 'X is a bad/good representation for the gay community' when surely..most do not go in to represent the gay community to start with. IDK it seems a bit weird to me I guess. Obviously women are not a minority in the way gay people are but I cannot imagine going in and being expected to be a 'representative'. Its the same with black housemates actually..always get the 'X is making the black community look bad/good' or something when to me no, they are making themselves look bad, not a community. If that makes sense?

Totally agree, I don't think of anyone in the BB house representing any community.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Paula D

Totally agree, I don't think of anyone in the BB house representing any community.

Me neither, it shows they have no confidence in their own personality to win the show, they have to drag a label in with them

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Well of course, but every year we get these 'X is a bad/good representation for the gay community' when surely..most do not go in to represent the gay community to start with. IDK it seems a bit weird to me I guess. Obviously women are not a minority in the way gay people are but I cannot imagine going in and being expected to be a 'representative'. Its the same with black housemates actually..always get the 'X is making the black community look bad/good' or something when to me no, they are making themselves look bad, not a community. If that makes sense?

And that was totally Amanda's point when she said she does not represent a 'community' she represents herself, and judges others on how they represent themselves, not their 'community

For me, referring to anything as a 'community' excludes all other people, and the young imbeciles in this country are now practising exclusion all over the place

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

And that was totally Amanda's point when she said she does not represent a 'community' she represents herself, and judges others on how they represent themselves, not their 'community

For me, referring to anything as a 'community' excludes all other people, and the young imbeciles in this country are now practising exclusion all over the place

Also excluding gay people who don't follow the "rules".

[Denver]

Why does being gay have to define you as a person?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Why does being gay have to define you as a person?

Thankyou!!!

Shane J is on a mission to turn the house against Ann , he's very sly & bitchy!! .

And quite frankly he's become another India , he's playing the same card over and over again . He has no substance he's embarrassing .

[Vanessa]

I still like Wayne, but I last night show has put me off Amanda. She was so passive aggressive. If someone had talked to me like that i would have kicked off. I respect Shane so much for remaining calm.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I still like Wayne, but I last night show has put me off Amanda. She was so passive aggressive. If someone had talked to me like that i would have kicked off. I respect Shane so much for remaining calm.

Remaining calm??? he's a patronising sly snake !! .
in last night's HL show he had an unhealthy obsession with Ann , i lost count the amount of times the voice over kept saying "Ann is still the topic" or "Ann is still on Shane J's mind" .

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I still like Wayne, but I last night show has put me off Amanda. She was so passive aggressive. If someone had talked to me like that i would have kicked off. I respect Shane so much for remaining calm.

There was something unpleasant about the way in which Amanda spoke last night and it put me off her too.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Garfie

There was something unpleasant about the way in which Amanda spoke last night and it put me off her too.

What about Shane J's constant bitchiness of Ann , wasn't that unpleasant? .
Amanda was sticking up for Ann and she's clearly fed up of the same political debate on Ann's views on the LGBT community .

Shane J has nothing to give the public now that Andrew's gone his showmance has ended, so now he's pulling an India and playing the victim with this same card , Ann hasn't hurt him in any way yet he continues to pursue this vendetta towards her which is very uncomfortable and tiresome to watch .

Amanda clearly told Shane J she's friends with Ann and it doesn't matter to her what Ann's views are as she's not there to grill Ann .

[Lilac hills]

She was right on everything

Ended Shane j and other victim complex far left idiots

[Cherie]

They didn’t go in to represent anything other than themselves

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Lilac hills

She was right on everything

Ended Shane j and other victim complex far left idiots

Ate him up and spat him out, just as Wayne and Ashley did too

[Patricia4]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Ate him up and spat him out, just as Wayne and Ashley did too

Your right there Chuff I loved it good for the three of them.

[chuff me dizzy]

They are BEST representation ,they don't expect to be put on this pathetic whining, self absorbed pedestal that others do

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

They are BEST representation ,they don't expect to be put on this pathetic whining, self absorbed pedestal that others do

I'll translate this post

'They are BEST representation, they keep quiet and don't acknowledge the problems that the non-majority have so I don't find them threatening.'

As for the rest of your post, people fighting for equal rights and for the right to not be scared that they will be without family or friends or a roof over their heads if they dare share their truth are not 'whining' or 'self absorbed'. You have no ****ing clue what it's like and you lack the empathy to ever understand it. You should be thankful for the former but saddened by the latter, your life would be richer for it if you could empathise with people outside of your own viewpoints and situation.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I'll translate this post

'They are BEST representation, they keep quiet and don't acknowledge the problems that the non-majority have so I don't find them threatening.'

As for the rest of your post, people fighting for equal rights and for the right to not be scared that they will be without family or friends or a roof over their heads if they dare share their truth are not 'whining' or 'self absorbed'. You have no ****ing clue what it's like and you lack the empathy to ever understand it. You should be thankful for the former but saddened by the latter, your life would be richer for it if you could empathise with people outside of your own viewpoints and situation.

Well said.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

They are BEST representation ,they don't expect to be put on this pathetic whining, self absorbed pedestal that others do

Wanting to be treated like everyone is a "pedestal" now is it.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Wanting to be treated like everyone is a "pedestal" now is it.

Amanda & Wayne take Ann as she is , they don't force Ann to have the same opinions and views as them . They don't argue endlessly for acceptance. Because Ann has already accepted them for who they are.

Shane J respected Ann and even defended her against Andrew calling her the c word and a bitch yet he then started going on a bitch session himself about Ann, so explain why he was ok with Ann one minute then as soon as Andrew get's evicted he starts a hate campaign?? .

And now he's back to clearing the air again with Ann,Shane J is like dr jekyll mr hyde and it's all a game plan .

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Amanda & Wayne take Ann as she is , they don't force Ann to have the same opinions and views as them .

Are you still spouting this rubbish.

No one's forcing or trying to force Ann to change her views at all.

Next time, actually read and listen to people's arguments and the context of them before resorting to rubbish, you might actually learn something.