[arista]

[A schoolgirl who fled Britain to join
Islamic State has been found
heavily pregnant in a refugee camp.
Shamima Begum was just 15 when she
and two classmates
travelled to Syria in February 2015.
She described witnessing beheadings, bombings
and the loss of her two infant children
as the caliphate fell apart around her.
However the 19-year-old says she
does not regret joining the
terror group – but now wants to come home.]

https://news.sky.com/story/i-dont-re...-baby-11636715


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-pregnant.html






Of Course she wants to return
to the Fun times in England.
But under Law she must go to Jail.

[Liam-]

Leave her over there, she made her bed now let her lay in it.

[LaLaLand]

Tough.

[Oliver_W]

A schoolgirl who fled London aged 15 to join ISIS has been found heavily pregnant in a refugee camp and said: 'I don't regret coming here

In an extraordinary interview with The Times she said: 'I saw my first severed head in a bin it didn’t faze me at all. It was from a captured fighter seized on the battlefield, an enemy of Islam.

Oh gee, should she be allowed back, this is such a tough question!!!

Once her baby is born, s/he should be brought back to the UK and given to a deserving, normal, loving family, and she should be left to lie in the bed she made.

[Cherie]

She does not regret joining the terror group? that's an incredible thing to say when you want to come home, also one of the girls who went with her was killed in an airstrike so an incredible insensitive thing to say given how her family will be feeling.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

She does not regret joining the terror group? that's an incredible thing to say when you want to come home, also one of the girls who went with her was killed in an airstrike so an incredible insensitive thing to say given how her family will be feeling.

Yes she needs to say she regrets it all.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Cherie

She does not regret joining the terror group? that's an incredible thing to say when you want to come home, also one of the girls who went with her was killed in an airstrike so an incredible insensitive thing to say given how her family will be feeling.

Yeah it doesn't seem to be "oh my god, what have I done, please help", but "I want a cushy life in a council flat at the taxpayers' expense"

Even if she is allowed back without being detained, she certainly shouldn't be allowed to raise the child.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Cherie

She does not regret joining the terror group? that's an incredible thing to say when you want to come home, also one of the girls who went with her was killed in an airstrike so an incredible insensitive thing to say given how her family will be feeling.

I agree Cherie,the fact that she is not remorseful at all warrants her staying where she thought was better,she probably still does ,just wants the comforts of giving birth here,no thanks,she also lost two previous children through air strikes apparently,you live by the sword ,you die by the sword.

[Northern Monkey]

Soz darling,We Don’t do severed heads in this country

[Beso]

Depends if she fought or not I guess...if she didn't and was only their to produce future fighters then I see her more as a victim than anything else so would not mind her coming back into the care of the establishment.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Depends if she fought or not I guess...if she didn't and was only their to produce future fighters then I see her more as a victim than anything else so would not mind her coming back into the care of the establishment.

Even then, she'd probably raise her baby to either be a fighter for islam, or a baby making machine

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Depends if she fought or not I guess...if she didn't and was only their to produce future fighters then I see her more as a victim than anything else so would not mind her coming back into the care of the establishment.

Whether she fought her not is immaterial that is like saying the get away driver in a bank robbery had nothing to do with the robbery as he didn't enter the premises, I find her attitude problematic, no remorse, just get me home now Im pregnant and ISIS have more or less fallen and a refugee camp is not the place for me, would she want to come home if that were not the case is the question

[Livia]

The thing that worries me is that she shows no remorse. No return for terrorist.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

The thing that worries me is that she shows no remorse. No return for terrorist.

That's what tipped the balance for me to say no too.
Absolutely right.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

That's what tipped the balance for me to say no too.
Absolutely right.

But do we know if she would have been in danger if she did denounce Isis?

[Lakey]

Originally Posted by Livia

The thing that worries me is that she shows no remorse. No return for terrorist.

I don’t believe she should ever be allowed back. She and is a danger to all of us and our country should seek to protect the majority of citizens over the minority.

[joeysteele]

On balance, I think not as to returning, sorry.

[Cal.]

This bitch expects me to feel sorry for her? I don’t!

[Strictly Jake]

Knowing how soft and tolerating this country can be at times I'm pretty sure they are gonna let her back but they shouldn't especially the fact she has no regrets that still shows her stayed of mind.

I know it was only a TV program but remember when David Budd felt sympathetic towards the woman on the train but she was behind it all along that's a sad reflection of what people on this country do they will feel sorry for her because she is a pregnant woman but she has a dangerous mind

[Crimson Dynamo]

this isnt your home luv, fck off

[user104658]

If she's a British citizen then she's our responsibility, is really the be all and end all of the discussion over whether or not she should be brought back into the UK. Countries can't just start saying "not our problem" and exiling. Why would anywhere else want her, either? So if she's dangerous / guilty and needs locked up, so be it, but if she's British then it's Britain that has to provide the cell I'm afraid.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

If she's a British citizen then she's our responsibility, is really the be all and end all of the discussion over whether or not she should be brought back into the UK. Countries can't just start saying "not our problem" and exiling. Why would anywhere else want her, either? So if she's dangerous / guilty and needs locked up, so be it, but if she's British then it's Britain that has to provide the cell I'm afraid.

Yeah I kinda take this view as well. I'd rather she didn't return but I think we have a responsibility as she is our citizen. If someone from another country came over here to support terrorism and then their home country were like: 'nah we don't want them back, they can stay with you' then everybody would be raging. I think she should serve some long jail time though, she clearly still has a lot of affection for 'the caliphate' and would be happy enough there if they weren't on the verge of defeat

[Becs]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Yeah I kinda take this view as well. I'd rather she didn't return but I think we have a responsibility as she is our citizen. If someone from another country came over here to support terrorism and then their home country were like: 'nah we don't want them back, they can stay with you' then everybody would be raging. I think she should serve some long jail time though, she clearly still has a lot of affection for 'the caliphate' and would be happy enough there if they weren't on the verge of defeat

The more these kind of things happen the more likely we will get tougher. Laws can be changed and if she can’t be made stateless atm that may well change in the future. It is exactly these kinds of actions that make people question immigration from certain countries as no one wants to be responsible for them when the inevitable happens, understandably. The more they come the more this will happen. Individual accountability should be the deciding factor.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

If she's a British citizen then she's our responsibility, is really the be all and end all of the discussion over whether or not she should be brought back into the UK. Countries can't just start saying "not our problem" and exiling. Why would anywhere else want her, either? So if she's dangerous / guilty and needs locked up, so be it, but if she's British then it's Britain that has to provide the cell I'm afraid.

yes true, but still if she truly feels scared there and wants to come back to UK for safety then i would let her back in

but if she's changed too much for the worse (i mean become more radical extremistic after her stay at ISIS) then i would say take her in but lock her up

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

If she's a British citizen then she's our responsibility, is really the be all and end all of the discussion over whether or not she should be brought back into the UK. Countries can't just start saying "not our problem" and exiling. Why would anywhere else want her, either? So if she's dangerous / guilty and needs locked up, so be it, but if she's British then it's Britain that has to provide the cell I'm afraid.

Actually, she can deprived of her citizenship, whether she's naturalised or born here. Section 402 of the British Nationality Act 1981 says quite clearly that someone can be deprived of their citizenship of it's conducive to the public good.

They can also be left to face trial in the country they fled to, or they can be tried for war crimes in the International Criminal Court, although I don't think that would apply in this case.