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chuff me dizzy · 27-02-2019, 01:31 PM

At long last this poor man has won the right to appeal in the biggest cover up crime Ive ever known

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-...tzpY3nZmACrysc

Niamh. · 27-02-2019, 01:33 PM

Guilty as sin imo

chuff me dizzy · 27-02-2019, 01:35 PM

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Guilty as sin imo

NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Theresas brother and ex boyfriend are who i think did it ,did you watch it all on Netflix ?

Niamh. · 27-02-2019, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Theresas brother and ex boyfriend are who i think did it ,did you watch it all on Netflix ?

I watched the first series then did a load of reading up afterwards and I think he definitely did it. I started watching the second but I found it so biased It annoyed me. Peter Hyatt did a good statement analysis on him. Also, I wouldn't say "poor" him anything he's done some horrible **** besides that (that were very glossed over in the documentary. Brendan dassey also told his mother in a recorded phone conversation that Steve sexually abused him

http://statement-analysis.blogspot.c...entencing.html

Smithy · 27-02-2019, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

I watched the first series then did a load of reading up afterwards and I think he definitely did it. I started watching the second but I found it so biased It annoyed me. Peter Hyatt did a good statement analysis on him. Also, I wouldn't say "poor" him anything he's done some horrible **** besides that (that were very glossed over in the documentary. Brendan dassey also told his mother in a recorded phone conversation that Steve sexually abused him

http://statement-analysis.blogspot.c...entencing.html

Put him on trial for those crimes then, not something he didn’t do

Niamh. · 27-02-2019, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy

Put him on trial for those crimes then, not something he didn’t do

He did do it imo

Smithy · 27-02-2019, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

I watched the first series then did a load of reading up afterwards and I think he definitely did it. I started watching the second but I found it so biased It annoyed me. Peter Hyatt did a good statement analysis on him. Also, I wouldn't say "poor" him anything he's done some horrible **** besides that (that were very glossed over in the documentary. Brendan dassey also told his mother in a recorded phone conversation that Steve sexually abused him

http://statement-analysis.blogspot.c...entencing.html

Eh we know he has a below average IQ, how he speaks or what he says isn’t necessarily going to be what he means; or it’s easily taken out of context/deconstructed like this. I don’t think stuff like this is really reliable as apposed to the scientific evidence which has been produced by the defense

Niamh. · 27-02-2019, 05:12 PM

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Eh we know he has a below average IQ, how he speaks or what he says isn’t necessarily going to be what he means; or it’s easily taken out of context/deconstructed like this. I don’t think stuff like this is really reliable as apposed to the scientific evidence which has been produced by the defense

And even more so by the prosecution

Josy · 27-02-2019, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

I watched the first series then did a load of reading up afterwards and I think he definitely did it. I started watching the second but I found it so biased It annoyed me. Peter Hyatt did a good statement analysis on him. Also, I wouldn't say "poor" him anything he's done some horrible **** besides that (that were very glossed over in the documentary. Brendan dassey also told his mother in a recorded phone conversation that Steve sexually abused him

http://statement-analysis.blogspot.c...entencing.html

You really missed a lot not watching the second season, some of the criminal testing Kathleen carried out was truly eye opening and then the stuff that came out about Bobby was actually sickening

Niamh. · 27-02-2019, 08:50 PM

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You really missed a lot not watching the second season, some of the criminal testing Kathleen carried out was truly eye opening and then the stuff that came out about Bobby was actually sickening

The whole family seem.like weirdos tbf

Niamh. · 27-02-2019, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Theresas brother and ex boyfriend are who i think did it ,did you watch it all on Netflix ?

Why would her brother want to kill her? Makes zero sense and also, I found how netflix tried to point blame at the victims family was disgusting. I think we all forgot who the actual victim was in that story through the documentary and it wasn't the cat torturing, woman assaulter ..........

Did you know that Teresa specifically told her boss that Steve creeped her out and she didn't want to go to do his cars anymore, he gave a fake name that last time, he then phoned her 3 times that day hiding his number and once after she'd disappeared when he didn't hide his number

Smithy · 27-02-2019, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Why would her brother want to kill her? Makes zero sense and also, I found how netflix tried to point blame at the victims family was disgusting. I think we all forgot who the actual victim was in that story through the documentary and it wasn't the cat torturing, woman assaulter ..........

Did you know that Teresa specifically told her boss that Steve creeped her out and she didn't want to go to do his cars anymore, he gave a fake name that last time, he then phoned her 3 times that day hiding his number and once after she'd disappeared when he didn't hide his number

In S2 they don’t point at the victims family, they point to another member of Stevens, they also imply the boyfriend was aware of the framing as he had her diary which was in her car the day she went missing

chuff me dizzy · 27-02-2019, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy

In S2 they don’t point at the victims family, they point to another member of Stevens, they also imply the boyfriend was aware of the framing as he had her diary which was in her car the day she went missing

And the ex also got into her phone and other online records,. what was he removing ?

chuff me dizzy · 27-02-2019, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Why would her brother want to kill her? Makes zero sense and also, I found how netflix tried to point blame at the victims family was disgusting. I think we all forgot who the actual victim was in that story through the documentary and it wasn't the cat torturing, woman assaulter ..........

Did you know that Teresa specifically told her boss that Steve creeped her out and she didn't want to go to do his cars anymore, he gave a fake name that last time, he then phoned her 3 times that day hiding his number and once after she'd disappeared when he didn't hide his number

Did you know Theresa advertised to take porn photos of couples ? and did you once see her Mother shed a tear ? no my money is firmly on Mike and Ryan

Niamh. · 27-02-2019, 03:58 PM

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Did you know Theresa advertised to take porn photos of couples ? and did you once see her Mother shed a tear ? no my money is firmly on Mike and Ryan

So what if she did, does that make her less of a murder victim? And her mother didn't cry, so you think she had something to do with it or? I don't get the relevance there at all

I mean Chuff, they have so much physical evidence against Steve..an actual guy with documented violent tendencies, they have Teresa telling her boss that Steve scared her last time she went there, they have her bodies remains having been burned with Steve's tools and found in a pit outside his trailer so basically, someone either burned them there without Steve or anyone else noticing or burned them off site but would have had to steal Steve's tools first then burn the body and those together, then plant them in front of his trailer. They have DNA on both his gun (which killed Teresa) and on the shell casings so the "real" killer would have had to steal that, shoot her, plant his DNA on them and then return them..............all without Steve noticing.

And to add, if it were her brother and ex (why though?) how would they have gotten the DNA to plant, unless you're honestly suggesting that they conspired with the police to both kill Teresa and then frame Steve? I mean framing someone is one thing but are you saying that they were happy to agree to the actual murdering of an innocent woman just so they could frame Steve Avery? I mean come oooonnnn

Smithy · 27-02-2019, 01:37 PM

Great News

Kathleen will DESTROY the attempted prosecution case, the amount of evidence tampering and rules which they broke was insane

chuff me dizzy · 27-02-2019, 03:20 PM

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Great News

Kathleen will DESTROY the attempted prosecution case, the amount of evidence tampering and rules which they broke was insane

What an amazing woman Kathleen is !! Ive never seen such a set up in my life, the rot starts at the top with the Sheriff and judge then trickles through the rest of the police force

Marsh. · 27-02-2019, 01:37 PM

"Poor man"

Niamh. · 27-02-2019, 01:46 PM

although no matter what he would be charged with now he'd think he'd get off with it now probably

Denver · 27-02-2019, 01:49 PM

He was already framed once by the police so I'm not sure if he is guilty or has been framed again

Niamh. · 27-02-2019, 01:56 PM

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He was already framed once by the police so I'm not sure if he is guilty or has been framed again

He wasn't actually "framed" by the Police the first time (although they didn't act on it when another prisoner years later confessed). Steve was known to the Police in the area ( no matter how the documentary tried to excuse his bad behaviour before the rape case) He was sent to prison because the woman who was raped mistakenly identified him (he did look similar to the guy who actually did it) Also, part of that sentence was for something he did do which was running a woman off the road and pulling a gun on her

Denver · 27-02-2019, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

He wasn't actually "framed" by the Police the first time (although they didn't act on it when another prisoner years later confessed). Steve was known to the Police in the area ( no matter how the documentary tried to excuse his bad behaviour before the rape case) He was sent to prison because the woman who was raped mistakenly identified him (he did look similar to the guy who actually did it) Also, part of that sentence was for something he did do which was running a woman off the road and pulling a gun on her

But they had the evidence to prove he didn't do it at the time and disregarded it