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Old 09-04-2019, 09:24 PM #1
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Default Nicola Mclean: "Obese model portrayed in Gillette advert portrays unhealthy image"

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The Gillette Venus advert featuring a plus-size model sparked a live TV debate that descended into fat-shaming. The model in the advert, Anna O’Brien, is pictured wearing a bikini on the beach with her arms in the air. Gillette Venus shared the ad with the caption: ‘Go out and slay the day’.

The online responses to the campaign haven’t been kind, and the harsh comments continued offline as it came up for discussion on Jeremy Vine. On Tuesday’s show, host Anne Diamond took a call from a woman who said she used to weigh 34 stone. Admitting that she had been fat-shamed in the past, she added: ‘I’ll be honest, I don’t agree with this advert at all. That’s not plus, that’s super super super super plus and I think she looks disgusting. ‘I used to be bigger than that and again I think it’s unhealthy and I think a lot of people that are super-sized, they won’t admit it but I think there’s a lot of mental health issues behind there.’



She went on: ‘I used to comfort eat, I still comfort eat, I still struggle with my weight. I’m a size 20 at the moment, and it’s not easy but that is not a positive image to be putting out there.’ Anne then went to model and plus size lifestyle blogger Stephanie Yeboah, who said: ‘I think it’s very damaging to shame people into losing weight. ‘I think also, studies have shown that if you try and shame fat people into losing weight it has a detrimental effect.’ Anna, also known as Glitter and Lazers, was praised by Gillette for ‘living out loud’.



They said in a statement: ‘Venus is committed to representing beautiful women of all shapes, sizes, and skin types because ALL types of beautiful skin deserve to be shown. ‘We love Anna because she lives out loud and loves her skin no matter how the “rules” say she should display it.’
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omg she's absolutely massive
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yeah that's not healthy
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She’s kinda right I guess, being that size isn’t healthy in the slightest
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As much as I’m against body shaming, she’s right, it’s not good to romanticise unhealthy lifestyles
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She’s right tbh. Mean McLean spilling the tea

We’re all for representation and inclusion but whenever someone anorexic is glorified ppl get mad (and rightfully so in a lot of ways). Always kinda annoyed me it doesn’t work the other way with obese models

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Big girls.
Up to them how they lead their lives.
Wouldn’t mind betting they have better personalities than Nicola Mclean.
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Big girls.
Up to them how they lead their lives.
Wouldn’t mind betting they have better personalities than Nicola Mclean.
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Wouldn’t mind betting they have better personalities than Nicola Mclean.


Well said smudgie,but that wouldn't be hard would it
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I'm NOT a fan of Nicole but its true it is unhealthy to be that overweight let's not sugar coat it ,no pun intended .
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I'm NOT a fan of Nicole but its true it is unhealthy to be that overweight let's not sugar coat it ,no pun intended .
Yes I also think her comparing it to anorexia is very valid, both are caused by eating disorders so to glorify someone of this size is definitely not sending the right message
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Yes I also think her comparing it to anorexia is very valid, both are caused by eating disorders so to glorify someone of this size is definitely not sending the right message
Exactly .
Sadly nowadays you're not allowed to speak the truth without being accused of "fat shaming" . people who have both struggled with Anorexia & obesity have said themselves how unhealthy & dangerous it is , ask any doctor who will tell you straight how it is .

Also people mix up body positivity & they go too far with it .
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That’s not plus, that’s super super super super plus and I think she looks disgusting
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I agree with Nicola. Growing up a piled on weight due to bullying and only really snapped out of it at about 14 or 15 and honestly looking at women that overweight and seeing them celebrated is so unhealthy. There would outrage if a girl so skinny she had bones protruding all over was glamorized in the same way.

Being slightly over weight can be beautiful but the women in the adverts are dangerously obese.
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Well yes I'm not going to say that advertising should steer clear of various body shapes and sizes in the normal range, but at that size it's very unlikely that there WON'T be upcoming health complications and ignoring that is probably the wrong move.

Gillette is really knocking it out of the park at the moment...
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There is a lot I could say about this but I don't want to get banned. All I'm going to say is she will be finding it hard to use a Gillette razor in a lot of places...
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There is a lot I could say about this but I don't want to get banned. All I'm going to say is she will be finding it hard to use a Gillette razor in a lot of places...
Banned.

I agree with what people have said though.
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Did Nicola lie tho?
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I agree. & I'm huge

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Sorry but i'd have guessed from photo's she was from my 300lb family ~ not modelling.
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Yes It is not healthy to be that FAT
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Gillette did it knowing full well it would create controversy/discussion, I won't pander to their marketing. Wouldn't surprise me if Nicola were being paid by gillette to stir it up.

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...looking at very underweight models and it making her think she needs to lose weight isn’t a healthy mindset either...rather than ‘shame’ these ladies I would have thought she would have showed more thought and sensitivity and understanding as it’s exactly the same as when she was ‘celebrated for being thin’ as she said...I agree with Stephanie Yeboah, whoever she is...being obese is obviously a health issue but I don’t think ‘shaming’ is the way or is helpful...I agree with bots, it does feel as though these ladies are being exploited by Gillette which doesn’t seem to serve any positive purpose...
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Yes It is not healthy to be that FAT
true, too much fat can lead to problems with your heart


same how too much salt on your food is also bad for your heart
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what are they trying to say other than buy our overpriced goods?

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