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parmnion · 17-07-2019, 07:01 PM

If black humans are going to a party that involves fancy dress, say an 80s party or something...do they white up like white humans black thier faces up for bob marley or stevie wonder?

I think white humans love black humans music so don't see an issue with making yourself look more like your musical idol of the 80s.

I think black humans don't need to whiten thier faces to look like thier musical icons from the 80s....because black humans have better musical taste than white humans.

Moniqua · 17-07-2019, 07:06 PM

Twosugars · 17-07-2019, 08:11 PM

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parmnion · 17-07-2019, 08:11 PM

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Denver · 17-07-2019, 07:08 PM

White people were not kidnapped from their own countries and force to live as a slave who was worth nothing in a foreign land.

That is why its unacceptable to act be black for fancy dress

parmnion · 17-07-2019, 07:19 PM

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White people were not kidnapped from their own countries and force to live as a slave who was worth nothing in a foreign land.

That is why its unacceptable to act be black for fancy dress

I think that is absolutely ridiculous...in this day and age.

You are saying a bloke can't sit in the corner off a marquee at an 80s party all bob marleyed up cause he loves bob marley music!

Surely that is why we have divisions in life.

Denver · 17-07-2019, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

I think that is absolutely ridiculous.

You are saying a bloke can't sit in the corner off a marquee at an 80s party all bob marleyed up cause he loves bob marley music!

Surely that is why we have divisions in life.

You dont blackface because you love some singer you buy a poster or a CD or something

parmnion · 17-07-2019, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

You dont blackface because you love some singer you buy a poster or a CD or something

And wander around an 80s party for your cousins 18th or something. ..hey guys I'm bob marley, can't you tell by the tshirt! !

Denver · 17-07-2019, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

And wander around an 80s party for your cousins 18th or something. ..hey guys I'm bob marley, can't you tell by the tshirt! !

You can dress up as Bob Marley without black facing

Oliver_W · 17-07-2019, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

White people were not kidnapped from their own countries and force to live as a slave who was worth nothing in a foreign land.

Slaves of the Ottoman empire might beg to differ.

Oliver_W · 17-07-2019, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

White people were not kidnapped from their own countries and force to live as a slave who was worth nothing in a foreign land.

That is why its unacceptable to act be black for fancy dress

Several countries in northern Africa kidnapped and used white slaves, so is it unacceptable for black people from those countries to white up?

Livia · 18-07-2019, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

White people were not kidnapped from their own countries and force to live as a slave who was worth nothing in a foreign land.

That is why its unacceptable to act be black for fancy dress

What makes you think that? The slave trade is alive and well my friend...

Toy Soldier · 18-07-2019, 12:37 PM

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What makes you think that? The slave trade is alive and well my friend...

The slave trade (especially sex slavery) is very much alive and well, that much is sadly very true, however I think the fact that black people were enslaved specifically by white Europeans is what makes it especially inappropriate for white people to "black up", in comparison to vice-versa, or other costumes.

Honestly, the rule of thumb should be, if the majority of a group of people find something offensive (and I think this DOES apply to blackface) then other people should respect that and stop doing it. It should really be as simple as that. No matter what group that is.

Livia · 18-07-2019, 12:44 PM

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The slave trade (especially sex slavery) is very much alive and well, that much is sadly very true, however I think the fact that black people were enslaved specifically by white Europeans is what makes it especially inappropriate for white people to "black up", in comparison to vice-versa, or other costumes.

Honestly, the rule of thumb should be, if the majority of a group of people find something offensive (and I think this DOES apply to blackface) then other people should respect that and stop doing it. It should really be as simple as that. No matter what group that is.

Frankly I've only ever heard white people complain about it.

The slave trade is rife and it's happening all over the world. How many times have you heard about slaves in this country, kept to work in dreadful conditions, no access to medicine... and that's in one of the most developed countries in the world. Trouble is that we don't hear that much about modern slavery. I don't know why anyone should suppose slavery is any better for the slave now.

Kazanne · 18-07-2019, 12:49 PM

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Frankly I've only ever heard white people complain about it.

The slave trade is rife and it's happening all over the world. How many times have you heard about slaves in this country, kept to work in dreadful conditions, no access to medicine... and that's in one of the most developed countries in the world. Trouble is that we don't hear that much about modern slavery. I don't know why anyone should suppose slavery is any better for the slave now.

I guess I wont be able to come as a chimney sweep to your party now Livia

Toy Soldier · 17-07-2019, 08:55 PM

1) Yes it's different and anyone claiming not to realise that is either being disingenuous "to make some sort of point", or they are genuinely stupid. I think for most it's the former but who knows.

2) Other than the movie "white chicks" which is obviously a parody of blackface, I have literally NEVER seen any black person "doing whiteface". Why are people making up just utterly laughable nonsense to justify their **** lately?

Twosugars · 17-07-2019, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

1) Yes it's different and anyone claiming not to realise that is either being disingenuous "to make some sort of point", or they are genuinely stupid. I think for most it's the former but who knows.

2) Other than the movie "white chicks" which is obviously a parody of blackface, I have literally NEVER seen any black person "doing whiteface". Why are people making up just utterly laughable nonsense to justify their **** lately?

I missed you TS

parmnion · 17-07-2019, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

1) Yes it's different and anyone claiming not to realise that is either being disingenuous "to make some sort of point", or they are genuinely stupid. I think for most it's the former but who knows.

2) Other than the movie "white chicks" which is obviously a parody of blackface, I have literally NEVER seen any black person "doing whiteface". Why are people making up just utterly laughable nonsense to justify their **** lately?

There's nothing racist abut going dressed up to a relatives 80s party with a bit of make up on your face because you love a certain music icon..it's stupid to me to think otherwise if I'm honest..

Oliver_W · 17-07-2019, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

There's nothing racist abut going dressed up to a relatives 80s party with a bit of make up on your face because you love a certain music icon..it's stupid to me to think otherwise if I'm honest..

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