[arista]

[Multiple people have been killed in an attack at a
shopping centre in El Paso in Texas, police and a mayor's aide have said.
One person is in custody after the shooter went on a rampage
on Saturday at the Cielo Vista Mall.
Police Sgt. Enrique Carrillo told MSNBC that there were "multiple fatalities" and that officers
were "searching multiple scenes, primarily the Walmart".]


https://news.sky.com/story/el-paso-m...olice-11776933

[Jigs]

Colour me unsurprised

[Tom4784]

Another inevitable Caucasian shooter with extreme right wing material in his devices no doubt. Politicians will send their worthless prayers yet nothing will ever change and they won't be brave enough to call out this shooter for what he'll inevitably turn out to be, a terrorist.

[MB.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Another inevitable Caucasian shooter with extreme right wing material in his devices no doubt. Politicians will send their worthless prayers yet nothing will ever change and they won't be brave enough to call out this shooter for what he'll inevitably turn out to be, a terrorist.

BBC News are reporting that a white man in his 20s is in custody, so yep

Much as the responses were to the Pittsburgh, Poway and Gilroy shootings, I imagine as many steps will be taken to tackle domestic terrorism as they will to introduce gun reform (i.e. zero)

[JerseyWins]

Daaamn that would be terrifying

[Liam-]

Jfc, it’s never going to end is it?

I wonder what excuses are going to be made by Republicans this time

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Jfc, it’s never going to end is it?

I wonder what excuses are going to be made by Republicans this time

Political preducice before the bodies are cold?

Classy

[MB.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Political preducice before the bodies are cold?

Classy

Mass shootings will continue to happen for as long as the Republican Party are funded by the NRA, so I think it's perfectly suitable conclusion to draw if the US wants to stop its citizens getting needlessly slaughtered every other day

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by MB.

Mass shootings will continue to happen for as long as the Republican Party are funded by the NRA, so I think it's perfectly suitable conclusion to draw if the US wants to stop its citizens getting needlessly slaughtered every other day

That i
s just your own preducice opinion, not fact

[MB.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

That i
s just your own preducice opinion, not fact

Or you could read up on the subject and stop being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-senators.html
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/02/23/p...out/index.html
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...h-to-lawmakers
https://www.businessinsider.com/nra-...18-2?r=US&IR=T
https://qz.com/1214787/how-the-nras-...t-gun-control/
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018...-russian-money

But yes, I do apologise for being prejudiced against people getting killed

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

That i
s just your own preducice opinion, not fact

Pointing out that someone's opinion is indeed an opinion is not an argument, it just shows you continue to struggle to tell the difference between facts and opinions because MB wasn't presenting his opinions as a fact, he was using established facts (NRA DOES fund a lot of republicans) to explain his views that things won't change until the NRA has less of a hold on US politics.

You either can't tell the difference between facts or opinions or you are purposely misrepresenting what people are saying because you lack the ability to actually argue a point. All you can do is point out the obvious, 'Well your opinion in this discussion is OBVIOUSLY an opinion so... '

Utterly pointless response.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Political preducice before the bodies are cold?

Classy

There'll be another shooting before these bodies are cold. THAT is the problem.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Political preducice before the bodies are cold?

Classy

There is a problem, something needs to be done, if your first response is about someone else’s opinion on the matter rather than the nearly two dozen people that have just been slaughtered, then there’s something seriously wrong.

It’s down to the people in charge to change things, they need to be held accountable when they refuse to try and people ****ing die as a result.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Liam-

There is a problem, something needs to be done, if your first response is about someone else’s opinion on the matter rather than the nearly two dozen people that have just been slaughtered, then there’s something seriously wrong.

It’s down to the people in charge to change things, they need to held accountable when they refuse to try and people ****ing die as a response.

Which president cstopped shootings like this?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Which president cstopped shootings like this?

Well clearly none of them? What a stupid question.

Prime Ministers however, John Howard changed gun laws in Australia after a mass shooting and guess how many they’ve had since? None, so it’s not impossible, nothing will change in America until the powers that be decide to pull their finger out and stop taking the knee for the NRA, their thoughts and prayers are meaningless until they take steps to rectify the problem.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Political preducice before the bodies are cold?

Classy

Also LT, do not clutch your pearls and pretend to be outraged and take the moral high ground when you are continually either silent or dismissive of the abuses going on at the US border.

[arista]

They were dressed in black clothes
reports say.

[Twosugars]

Why did he travel to el paso, a border town?
Trump's anti immigration rhetoric bears an ugly fruit?

[MB.]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Why did he travel to el paso, a border town?
Trump's anti immigration rhetoric bears an ugly fruit?

(this isn't confirmed yet though)

The Gilroy shooter also promoted white supremacist books on 8Chan and said he wanted to kill "hordes of mestizos", and this isn't even taking into account the recent major synagogue shootings, so anyone who refuses to see a pattern here is wilfully blind

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by MB.

(this isn't confirmed yet though)

The Gilroy shooter also promoted white supremacist books on 8Chan and said he wanted to kill "hordes of mestizos", and this isn't even taking into account the recent major synagogue shootings, so anyone who refuses to see a pattern here is wilfully blind

Wilfully blind or morally complicit, MB. I fear it's mostly the latter

[arista]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Why did he travel to el paso, a border town?
Trump's anti immigration rhetoric bears an ugly fruit?

A Walmart
with low security

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by arista

A Walmart
with low security

Why 10 hours away in a border town, arista?!

[MB.]

I'm going to San Diego in a couple of weeks and I'd be lying if I said I was feeling entirely comfortable about it

[Liam-]

Bill Clinton banned assault weapons in 1994 and mass shooting deaths dropped by 43%, the republicans allowed the ban to run out in 2004 and they rose by over 200%, they’ve done it before then can and should do it again, America right now values guns more than the lives of innocent people, how many more need to die before something is done? Why wasn’t Columbine enough? Why wasn’t Sandy Hook enough?

[arista]