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Old 24-10-2019, 10:55 AM #1
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This one is pretty tough, tougher than I thought at first read

A trolley is running out of control down a track. In its path are five people who have been tied to the track by a mad philosopher. Fortunately, you could flip a switch, which will lead the trolley down a different track to safety. Unfortunately, there is a single person tied to that track. Should you flip the switch or do nothing?
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either way your in the wrong. all you could do is what ever possible to trying and stop the train all together, even if there is 0.0001% of success. if you fail then oh well, at least you tried.
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either way your in the wrong. all you could do is what ever possible to trying and stop the train all together, even if there is 0.0001% of success. if you fail then oh well, at least you tried.
No that's cheating, you have to pick one option or the other, flick the switch or don't flick the switch
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Are we sitting in the trolly?
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Leave it has it is as if you sent it down another track knowing it would hurt someone then you are responsible to whatever happens
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I'd let the trolley mow them all in half, and then mix and match the different body parts.
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Depends who is on each track, e.g.

- I'd let 5 people adults die to save one child
- I'd let 5 strangers die to save one friend
- I'd let 5 friends die to save one family member


But if we're assuming it's 6 random adult strangers, morally, yes I'd flip the switch and have 1 die rather than 5.

Legally it's a different issue as I suspect actively flipping the switch would make you legally responsible for that person's death whereas doing nothing (other than trying, somehow, to get the train to stop) would not.
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...although 5 people would die.....I could not actively do anything that would take a life...
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I’d keep flipping the switch just as the tracks begin to separate to try and derail the trolley. That way everyone lives
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There is a moral responsibility to make sure that we switch it to kill one person, although in practice flicking the switch would be far more difficult.
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...that’s exactly it though, flicking that switch to cause a death would be an impossibility for me...even though I know it would lead to more deaths...
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...that’s exactly it though, flicking that switch to cause a death would be an impossibility for me...even though I know it would lead to more deaths...
What if it was kids on the other track though? I feel like in that case I'd have to hit the switch.

I also know I would if it was to save a loved one... I'd genuinely hit a button that would kill hundreds then. Though I know that's not moral.
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What if it was kids on the other track though? I feel like in that case I'd have to hit the switch.

I also know I would if it was to save a loved one... I'd genuinely hit a button that would kill hundreds then. Though I know that's not moral.
Yeah, if it were kids I probably would too. But what if it were kids on both tracks? 5 kids Vs 1?
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What if it was kids on the other track though? I feel like in that case I'd have to hit the switch.

I also know I would if it was to save a loved one... I'd genuinely hit a button that would kill hundreds then. Though I know that's not moral.
...I’m going to assume that none of them were children because that would have been specified...?...is my thought process...obviously my thought processes are with a calm rationale...and not the chaos that would be the reality of it, so we never really know...my instinct tells me that I couldn’t actively do anything to take a life...and I’m assuming that wouldn’t be a loved one either because that would have been specified...?...that’s quite an important thing to add to the dilemma...
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So apparently, this is what a study on this dilemma concludes :

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The Economist reports that only 10% of experimental subjects are willing to throw the stranger under the train. I suspect it would be less, if the subjects found themselves in a real situation, instead of a pretend experimental test. The further result of the experiment is that these 10% of people tend to have personalities that are, "pscyhopathic, Machiavellian, or tended to view life as meaningless."
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If the trolley hit the first of the 5 people that body(a big burly body like Slims) it might stop it killing the other 4,so maybe Ide send it down the track with the 5 people tied to it.
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I would get out of the area as quick as possible, some mad gang might try tying me to the railway lines next.
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So seeing as most of you think that both are equally as bad, what if you had to pass their sentences but the judge said one of them gets 25 years and one gets 10 years. Which sentence do you give to who?
I think this is the other thread
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