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Old 28-12-2020, 07:05 PM #1
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can you explain the source and what political? agenda he has and why we should pay attention to his view?

is he british?
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seems a very bias start to a debate?
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I guess if you voted for Brexit in the first place you would say it was bad or even worse didn’t vote at all because you thought someone else would do your job for you, end of the day its a deal, I can only imagine the hand wringing if the UK went out on no deal

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I guess if you voted for Brexit in the first place you would say it was bad or even worse didn’t vote at all because you thought someone else would do your job for you, end of the day its a deal, I can only imagine the hand wringing if the UK went out on no deal

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yup and the kids

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Very good

That incredibly ridiculous diagram including extremely minor details like “pet passport” and “border checks” to try and fill up a diagram to make it look like we have lost loads

When in reality all the important details such as being able to study in the EU, trade deals , tariffs, fisheries count as just one detail (almost as if it’s equivalent to having a pet passport )

I think most people with a brain can see past that ridiculous tweet.

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Very good

That incredibly ridiculous diagram including extremely minor details like “pet passport” and “border checks” to try and fill up a diagram to make it look like we have lost loads

When in reality all the important details such as being able to study in the EU, trade deals , tariffs, fisheries count as just one detail (almost as if it’s equivalent to having a pet passport )

I think most people with a brain can see past that ridiculous tweet.
what is most concerning is that the extreme left twitter person works for sky news..

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Very good

That incredibly ridiculous diagram including extremely minor details like “pet passport” and “border checks” to try and fill up a diagram to make it look like we have lost loads

When in reality all the important details such as being able to study in the EU, trade deals , tariffs, fisheries count as just one detail (almost as if it’s equivalent to having a pet passport )

I think most people with a brain can see past that ridiculous tweet.
Minor details like giving away rights, for a fisheries industry that employs only 10k people.

When people wonder how propaganda works, the UK's recent obsession with fish we don't eat should be studied by future generations.
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Yeah, I don't think the chart depicts an accurate representation of what the deal fully entails.

Honestly, I don't think we can judge too much until we can analyse the effects years down the line.
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The tweet I posted is the only concise image I’ve seen, if people have others feel free to post them and I’ll update the OP with them *


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The document is said to be 2,000 pages long, so that's a lot to put in one image
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having read every page I can confirm it is an excellent deal and we will crush the EU in trade and win.
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From what I understand, the deal isn't dramatically different from the one that May was offered, and if that's the case, this whole process since then has just been a pantomine of propaganda to massage Boris' ego and to cement an incredibly gullible public's hero worship of him.
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Very good if you like a load of your rights taken away. Which honestly, I’m starting to think right-wing people do. Like a fetish or sumin idk.

Otherwise bad.
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I don't like voting I don't know, however I'd have preferred a midway 'fair' deal option.

I think it's better than I expected from Johnson and his government with so many Con MPs preferring no deal.

I'm glad no deal is out.
So I'm glad Johnson only in the last short few weeks pushed for a deal.

The only really good deal was the one we already had with the EU, in my view.

I'll settle for this because for me no deal was unthinkable.

I'm just glad those hard-line Con MPs didn't get their way on no deal.
So in my view this was likely the best deal we'd get via Johnson and his Ministers.
The EU seem content and that's a plus for me too.
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I don't like voting I don't know, however I'd have preferred a midway 'fair' deal option.

I think it's better than I expected from Johnson and his government with so many Con MPs preferring no deal.

I'm glad no deal is out.
So I'm glad Johnson only in the last short few weeks pushed for a deal.

The only really good deal was the one we already had with the EU, in my view.

I'll settle for this because for me no deal was unthinkable.

I'm just glad those hard-line Con MPs didn't get their way on no deal.
So in my view this was likely the best deal we'd get via Johnson and his Ministers.
The EU seem content and that's a plus for me too.
This tbh.
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it is a good deal

win-win scenario for both sides i guess
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the definition of a good deal is when both sides of the negotiation are happy with the deal that they negotiated. If either side were not happy then it would have been a bad deal
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I don’t know why we have to allow them to strip our waters dry for the next 5.5 years though !!


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It's obviously not a "good" deal, however literally any deal is better than the chaos of no deal so I think that's making a lot of people see it as "good".
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What exactly is different than the Theresa May deal that everyone put down?
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What exactly is different than the Theresa May deal that everyone put down?


No specifics but LBC says the new deal is substantially better than the Theresa May one ...

I’m sure we will see comparisons sooner or later


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No specifics but LBC says the new deal is substantially better than the Theresa May one ...
Referring to the Henry Vlll clause specifically?!?!?

I’m sure we will see comparisons sooner or later


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