[Kazanne]

Imo,yes it is,we've lost another one today,plus all the others we have lost over the years, for me its just the greed of humans again, money,money money,sod the horses,It wont be a popular opinion with some,but no one will persuade me that the horses love it,they really have no choice.This list of horses that have died is horrendous really as they have died just for us and OUR entertainment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...more%20rows%20

[Scarlett.]

Very much so, the horses are treated horrifically

[Niamh.]

Yes absolutely, especially those steeple chase races, those jumps are ridiculous

[Alf]

Is Police using Horses and dogs for that matter, cruel?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

Is Police using Horses and dogs for that matter, cruel?

They're completely different situations

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

They're completely different situations

In what way?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

In what way?

In what are they similar at all?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

In what are they similar at all?

I asked first.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Alf

In what way?

They don’t jump over huge fenced with unseen drop downs on the other side..





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[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Alf

Is Police using Horses and dogs for that matter, cruel?

Probably it depends on how they are treated and Horseracing is just for profit Alf, not for anything else
https://www.worldanimalprotection.or...acing-is-cruel

[Smithy]

I’m sure we have this thread every year after the grand national

But yes it is

[Alf]

Let's say Horse racing is scrapped tomorrow. What happens to the horses?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

Let's say Horse racing is scrapped tomorrow. What happens to the horses?

They'd probably be sold to private owners for a lot of money

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

They'd probably be sold to private owners for a lot of money

Why would people buy them, to have as pets? They cost a lot of money to keep. You need stables, food, Vet bills to pay.

It's more likely that they'd end up as cat food. Bunged into tins on the supermarket shelf.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Alf

Why would people buy them, to have as pets? They cost a lot of money to keep. You need stables, food, Vet bills to pay.

It's more likely that they'd end up as cat food. Bunged into tins on the supermarket shelf.

lots of people would buy them, plus if they are not bred for races,there will be less of them anyway,Ide rather have less than have any die in pain while being made to race.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

Why would people buy them, to have as pets? They cost a lot of money to keep. You need stables, food, Vet bills to pay.



It's more likely that they'd end up as cat food. Bunged into tins on the supermarket shelf.

Loads of people already own horses, I mean I'm sure you know that?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Alf

Let's say Horse racing is scrapped tomorrow. What happens to the horses?

What happens to other horses? they go to special horse santuarys or are peoples pets we always get this argument,they just wouldn't be bred as much,so there would not be an overspill Im sure we have enough land to graze them on. It would eventually balance its self out.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

Let's say Horse racing is scrapped tomorrow. What happens to the horses?

Lasagna is cheaper.

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Alf

Let's say Horse racing is scrapped tomorrow. What happens to the horses?

They'll stop breeding for racing and horses will be happy without all the whipping ~ whippping should be banned or lets count how many times the jockey whips the horse and the give him he same amount of whips at end of race and see how he enjoys that. There are pleanty of other jobs for short blokes

[Alf]

Originally Posted by hijaxers

They'll stop breeding for racing and horses will be happy without all the whipping ~ whippping should be banned or lets count how many times the jockey whips the horse and the give him he same amount of whips at end of race and see how he enjoys that. There are pleanty of other jobs for short blokes

Who's feeding them and sheltering them and paying for their vet bills and protecting them from predators?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Alf

Who's feeding them and sheltering them and paying for their vet bills and protecting them from predators?

The people that own them we have lots of horses round here they are sheltered fed and are allowed to graze, that's how they should be living

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

The people that own them we have lots of horses round here they are sheltered fed and are allowed to graze, that's how they should be living

But if horse racing is scrapped, then there's going to be 10s of thousands more that need that security, who's paying?

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by hijaxers

They'll stop breeding for racing and horses will be happy without all the whipping ~ whippping should be banned or lets count how many times the jockey whips the horse and the give him he same amount of whips at end of race and see how he enjoys that. There are pleanty of other jobs for short blokes

I used to horse ride as a kid and there was a vet who had a horse at the stables I went to. I asked him if the whips hurt the horses and he said barely, if you whip them on the flank where you should the muscle is that dense it doesn't hurt, what makes them run faster is the sight of it out of the corner of their eyes which spooks them. I didn't believe him.....it has to hurt.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I used to horse ride as a kid and there was a vet who had a horse at the stables I went to. I asked him if the whips hurt the horses and he said barely, if you whip them on the flank where you should the muscle is that dense it doesn't hurt, what makes them run faster is the sight of it out of the corner of their eyes which spooks them. I didn't believe him.....it has to hurt.

I think it would hurt Annie
The horse racing industry has long relied on the premise that whips don’t hurt horses — but a new study has revealed that horses are thin-skinned creatures who feel pain when whipped.
Proof that whip use in horse racing DOES hurt horses.

www.mamamia.com.au/whip-use-in-horse-racing/

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Imo,yes it is,we've lost another one today,plus all the others we have lost over the years, for me its just the greed of humans again, money,money money,sod the horses,It wont be a popular opinion with some,but no one will persuade me that the horses love it,they really have no choice.This list of horses that have died is horrendous really as they have died just for us and OUR entertainment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...more%20rows%20

Yes it is and i would ban the Grand National its the worst race of all.