[Denver]

An announcement is expected tonight announcing that Liverpool, Man U, Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham, Ac Milan, Inter, Juventus, Real Madrid and Atheltico Madrid will join the new European Football league as the first team of a group of 20

[Nicky91]

ew

who cares, also amid a pandemic this stupid and unnecessary idea

[James]

Senior Uefa figures are furious that 11 major European clubs, including five from England, have signed up to a breakaway European Super League.

BBC Sport was told last week of plans for some sort of confirmation about a European Super League.

Uefa hoped to head off plans with a new-look 36-team Champions League set to be confirmed on Monday.

Uefa said it will use "all measures available" to stop the "cynical project" of a breakaway Super League.

The European governing body released a joint statement together with the English Football Association, Premier League Spanish Football Federation (RFEF), La Liga, and the Italian Football Federation (FIGC) as well as Serie A on Sunday.

They said they will "remain united" in trying to stop the breakaway, using both judicial and sporting measures if required.

They also reiterated Fifa's stance that players taking part in the Super League would be banned from all other competitions at domestic, European or world level and could be prevented from representing their national teams.

In a separate statement, the Premier League said it condemned the proposal as it "attacks the principles of open competition and sporting merit which are at the heart" of domestic and European football.

Juventus owner Andrea Agnelli, Manchester United executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward and AC Milan chief executive Ivan Gazidis would all have had a significant input into the Champions League discussions on Friday.

However, it appears those clubs are among those to have broken ranks, to the fury of Uefa, whose president Aleksander Ceferin wanted to stave off a Super League threat.

Spanish La Liga sides Real Madrid, Barcelona and Atletico Madrid are also part of the 11-team group, as are Italian Serie A club Inter Milan.

None of the clubs concerned have responded to questions about the proposals.

The Premier League said a European Super League would "destroy" the dream of fans that "their team may climb to the top and play against the best".

It added such a league would "undermine the appeal of the whole game" and that they would work with the FA, the English Football League, Professional Footballers' Association, League Managers Association and fans to "defend the integrity and future prospects of English football".

The FA said it will "not provide permission to any competition that would be damaging to English football" and will "take any legal and/or regulatory action necessary" to stop it.

Bundesliga sides are opposed to the plans because the German model means commercial investors cannot have more than a 49% stake in clubs, so fans hold a majority of their own voting rights.

It is understood French Ligue 1 side Paris St-Germain are not part of the 11-team group.

Uefa said it thanked "those clubs in other countries, especially the French and German clubs, who have refused to sign up" to the breakaway league.

"We call on all lovers of football, supporters and politicians, to join us in fighting against such a project if it were to be announced," they added.

"This persistent self-interest of a few has been going on for too long. Enough is enough."

Quite when the European Super League would start is unclear.

However, world governing body Fifa has already said it would not recognise such a competition and any players involved in it would be denied the chance to play at a World Cup.

Serie A have called an emergency board meeting to discuss the matter.

The Football Supporters' Association said it is "totally opposed" to the plans, which it said were "motivated by nothing but cynical greed".

They added: "This competition is being created behind our backs by billionaire club owners who have zero regard for the game's traditions and continue to treat football as their personal fiefdom."

It has been agreed the new-look Champions League will involve an initial phase where every club plays 10 matches each rather than the current group phase.

In addition there would be play-offs, followed by a knockout phase.

The most controversial aspect of the proposals surround the allocation of the four additional places, with two being reserved for the clubs ranked highest in Uefa's co-efficient table who fail to qualify for the Champions League through their domestic competition, but do secure some kind of European football.

At the moment, Liverpool and Chelsea would be the clubs who benefited from that system if it was in place this season.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56794673

I'm assuming this is some sort of negotiating position be the 12 clubs to get a better deal from the Champions League, and a breakaway won't go ahead?

I remember when the Formula One teams threatened to form their own championship. That never happened.

[arista]

Its down to Money.

SkyNews money Editor first reported all this
hours ago.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by arista

Its down to Money.

SkyNews money Editor first reported all this
hours ago.

That's what they think.

It's actually down to the people. If the people stopped paying the money to watch and buy merchandise, the money makers would pack it in and go somewhere else where they can make easy money out of people, and we'd have our clubs back.

[Crimson Dynamo]

how dreadfully dull

[bots]

uefa and the premier league will ban the players from any other competition, so that should end it in its tracks

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

uefa and the premier league will ban the players from any other competition, so that should end it in its tracks

Good

[Beso]

Celtic n rangers should there.

[MTVN]

Football is for the many not the few

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Football is for the many not the few

This.

Plus it's insulting to teams like Leicester & West Ham who have been better than some of the teams in this so-called "Super League" being snubbed because they're apparently not "elite."

At least there was some good news at the New York Stadium though.

[MTVN]

Also who the hell do Spurs and Arsenal think they are getting involved? Arsenal can barely make the top 10 of the Prem never mind compete in this 'Super League' and Spurs who haven't won a trophy in over a decade

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Also who the hell do Spurs and Arsenal think they are getting involved? Arsenal can barely make the top 10 of the Prem never mind compete in this 'Super League' and Spurs who haven't won a trophy in over a decade

Agree and with the current squad we will almost certainly finish bottom of the super league On the other hand, being in the league will attract better players.

Its a power grab and a money grab but I cant see how it can be stopped.

[Cherie]

What exactly is being proposed, so fans would have to go to Spain and Italy etc for away games and what happens to the PL.?

[Dogeatdog]

Originally Posted by Cherie

What exactly is being proposed, so fans would have to go to Spain and Italy etc for away games and what happens to the PL.?

Imagine the prices for season tickets. Some would have to probably remortgage

[Crimson Dynamo]

Youtube video

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Youtube video

Gary was immense tonight in his disgust

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Youtube video

What a hypocrite. Salford City have literally bought themselves into Football League 2. He also wanted their fans to pay £10 to watch a pre season game against some Man United kids. Come off it just because Sky are about to get ****ed over.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

What a hypocrite. Salford City have literally bought themselves into Football League 2. He also wanted their fans to pay £10 to watch a pre season game against some Man United kids. Come off it just because Sky are about to get ****ed over.

So you support the idea? What happens when your team is banned from every tournament and your players are banned from international and the government screw you over? You will play about 15 times a year and people will soon get bored of the idea and youbwint be able to go to games because Ticket prices will be sky high

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by Denver

So you support the idea? What happens when your team is banned from every tournament and your players are banned from international and the government screw you over? You will play about 15 times a year and people will soon get bored of the idea and youbwint be able to go to games because Ticket prices will be sky high.

I don’t support the idea at all and I hate the Glazer Family with every fibre in my body , but I’m not here for the sudden “Oh. Football has been ruined by Money” like this hasn’t been the case for years now.

Hell, the whole invention of the Premier League was to line up the pockets of some and milk football for all it’s worth. I’m a United fan who’s benefited most from the premier league, but let’s call a spade a spade. The likes of Sky, BT etc and their reactions has been embarrassing.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

I don’t support the idea at all and I hate the Glazer Family with every fibre in my body , but I’m not here for the sudden “Oh. Football has been ruined by Money” like this hasn’t been the case for years now.

Hell, the whole invention of the Premier League was to line up the pockets of some and milk football for all it’s worth. I’m a United fan who’s benefited most from the premier league, but let’s call a spade a spade. The likes of Sky, BT etc and their reactions has been embarrassing.

This is going to destroy British football though as the money the PL generates is mostly because of the elite teams nobody is gonna pay £1b to stick Barnsley vs Fulham on TV

[bots]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

I don’t support the idea at all and I hate the Glazer Family with every fibre in my body , but I’m not here for the sudden “Oh. Football has been ruined by Money” like this hasn’t been the case for years now.

Hell, the whole invention of the Premier League was to line up the pockets of some and milk football for all it’s worth. I’m a United fan who’s benefited most from the premier league, but let’s call a spade a spade. The likes of Sky, BT etc and their reactions has been embarrassing.

The premier league didn't destroy competition though, that's the fundamental difference.

I don't think the super league can be stopped. I think we are hearing lots of words in opposition to it, but it will all amount to nothing. The super league requires a global audience, it's not interested in local fans, it doesn't need them.

When TV rights are auctioned, sky and BT sport will be in there bidding, because if they don't, someone else will take it and they wont want to lose out on that revenue

The government can't do anything if the teams move their HQ's out of the country. If they don't need the local fans in the new model, they don't need to be based in the original locations either. They have the brands, thats all they need

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

What a hypocrite. Salford City have literally bought themselves into Football League 2. He also wanted their fans to pay £10 to watch a pre season game against some Man United kids. Come off it just because Sky are about to get ****ed over.

Bit different.

Nobody has said "don't put money into a club" but Salford arne't talking about starting their own competition and making a mockery of English football.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Alf

Bit different.

Nobody has said "don't put money into a club" but Salford arne't talking about starting their own competition and making a mockery of English football.

This.

What the 12 teams have done here is try to destroy European Football as we know it, Salford haven't done that and I'm gathering that they won't be doing that whilst Gary Neville is still there.

[James]

Football is about open competition, with promotion and relegation. It's not like American leagues which have franchises.