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arista · 30-07-2021, 09:08 AM

This is Logical.

Great debate on Ch5HD AM Live
Also first debate on This MorningHD itv

One Bloke phoned in
he refuses to get a Jab because he does
not trust the Government?

It's the medical scientists
that, advise us.

Even in USA
Biden finally now making sure all his white house staff
are vaccinated in the White House

Captain.Remy · 30-07-2021, 09:11 AM

I think I read that Facebook and Google won't let non-vaccinated employees in their offices anymore. I went through it quickly so not 100% sure how accurate and to what extent it is true.

michael21 · 30-07-2021, 09:15 AM

Yes

arista · 30-07-2021, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

I think I read that Facebook and Google won't let non-vaccinated employees in their offices anymore. I went through it quickly so not 100% sure how accurate and to what extent it is true.

Yes and a UK Plumber Business
is saying No Jab
No Job.

arista · 30-07-2021, 09:19 AM

Crimson Dynamo · 30-07-2021, 09:19 AM

If your reason is non-medical then yes

You want to work for my taxi firm?

Wait you have not been vaccinated because you "think" the vaccine was rushed through and not tested enough?

Please shut the door on your way out...

arista · 30-07-2021, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

If your reason is non-medical then yes

You want to work for my taxi firm?

Wait you have not been vaccinated because you "think" the vaccine was rushed through and not tested enough?

Please shut the door on your way out...

Yes of Course
Legit Medical Reasons, of course, not part of this.

Cherie · 30-07-2021, 11:45 AM

Some West End theatres and Clubs are already asking for passports or proof of recovering from covid, sensible in my view

Niamh. · 30-07-2021, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Some West End theatres and Clubs are already asking for passports or proof of recovering from covid, sensible in my view

You can't eat or drink indoors in Pubs or Restaurants here atm without having that proof. There's some backlash against that, I've seen people compare it apartheid or Nazi Germany segregating the Jews (which personally I think is shameful and trivialising of both those things.) I think the figure here was 25% of Pubs and Restaurants have decided against reopening indoor service until they don't have to ask people for that proof of vaccination/Covid recovery

user104658 · 30-07-2021, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

You can't eat or drink indoors in Pubs or Restaurants here atm without having that proof. There's some backlash against that, I've seen people compare it apartheid or Nazi Germany segregating the Jews (which personally I think is shameful and trivialising of both those things.) I think the figure here was 25% of Pubs and Restaurants have decided against reopening indoor service until they don't have to ask people for that proof of vaccination/Covid recovery

As far as I know you can't even GET proof of vaccination in Scotland. Well, you could get your GP to write up a letter or something, but you don't get it as standard and that could be easily faked

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TBH it feels like the whole thing could be faked. How do they work in England? Do most places actually scan the QR? If it's just a thing that appears on your phone surely you could just screenshot someone else's and swap in your details and show them that

. Eagle-eyed places might notice. Most wouldn't.

Cherie · 30-07-2021, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You can't eat or drink indoors in Pubs or Restaurants here atm without having that proof. There's some backlash against that, I've seen people compare it apartheid or Nazi Germany segregating the Jews (which personally I think is shameful and trivialising of both those things.) I think the figure here was 25% of Pubs and Restaurants have decided against reopening indoor service until they don't have to ask people for that proof of vaccination/Covid recovery

I think it is a bit much to compare it to Nazi Germany

they can still eat outside with the patio heater on

tbh I am happier eating outside still

user104658 · 30-07-2021, 01:01 PM

I highly doubt this would hold up in court and I suspect companies would be wide open to a dismissal claim if they fully fired someone for refusing.

They could, on the other hand, refuse to allow people to come back to a communal workplace and insist on them working from home if they won't get vaccinated (if they have a job where that's possible).

I'm double-vaxxed but it would be a bit harsh for them to fire me if I had refused, given that I haven't seen any of my coworkers face-to-face in over 12 months

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Nicky91 · 30-07-2021, 01:07 PM

luckily then that i have no work

also i don't care, my reason is a legit and good reason, i cannot speak for others whom unlike me are socializing crowd

those who socialize can spread the virus, so the more people vaxxed the better in slowing down the spread, i still believe in herd immunity

and i am not dumb, i will forever just wear my face mask whenever i have to leave my home (but that is not often) and as for holidays well i never leave the country either so, and in own country, i will also wear my face mask then, few disposable gloves as well

bots · 30-07-2021, 01:09 PM

we are getting into some interesting human rights territory. Someone could catch flu from a fellow office worker and end up dying from it, where do you draw the line. If the majority are vaccinated, and they keep moving forward with boosters etc, there is no real reason why anyone should be adversely affected in a typical work place setting, i think the danger for companies is more linked with insurance and not being sued if someone dies. It could well become an insurance standard that workers need to be vaccinated and that will have knock ons to health insurance, mortgages etc etc etc

Tom4784 · 30-07-2021, 01:17 PM

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Niamh. · 30-07-2021, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

People are ridiculous to compare current measures to the horrors of Nazi Germany, it's disgraceful, really, to the point of anti-semitism to reduce the suffering of millions to make out it's akin to having to wear a mask or not being able to go to a restaurant.

And they can still eat at the restaurant, they can sit outside, we've had beautiful weather and most places that have space, have covers and heaters for the evening

Tom4784 · 30-07-2021, 02:11 PM

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Cherie · 30-07-2021, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

And they can still eat at the restaurant, they can sit outside, we've had beautiful weather and most places that have space, have covers and heaters for the evening

it's whining for the sake of whining tbh

like the papers today saying the app had been changed by stealth when it was announced venues over 20K would [probably need to to have vac passports, if the app wasn't changed then it would be...oh they are not ready...can't win really

arista · 30-07-2021, 02:11 PM

Labour are half backing this.
Meaning they want instant tests as well.

Niamh. · 30-07-2021, 03:20 PM

here you go lazy bones

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I finished at 12 today (to go get it) and I have the rest of the week off. Kids are back at school and my wife will be at work so I can just slob about the couch all day if I'm feeling crap.

I still have no symptoms, even the little dot is gone now, HOWEVER I put shampoo in the mug cupboard (apparently) and I dont know why and have no memory of doing it? My wife was looking for it, it had been left in the kitchen and I was in there tidying like "nope I've not seen it anywhere" but I'd put it tucked away in the corner of a cupboard??

Its my brain clot starting isnt it

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