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arista · 13-03-2023, 12:22 PM

Just on SkyNewsHD

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/u...arity-26459672

Liam- · 13-03-2023, 12:23 PM

She should have been let go from it after her pathetic display

arista · 13-03-2023, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam-

She should have been let go from it after her pathetic display

Her job is to point out the Facts.
That is what she did with Brute Stanley Johnson.

So viewers were updated

user104658 · 13-03-2023, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Her job is to point out the Facts.
That is what she did with Brute Stanley Johnson.

So viewers were updated

I understand her obligation to explain the "unencumbered" facts legally, but there was more info given than needed. Maybe someone was in here ear - I don't know - but consider this part;

Ms Bruce then said: “I’m not disputing what you’re saying, but just so everyone knows what this is referring to, Stanley Johnson’s wife spoke to a journalist, Tom Bower, and she said that Stanley Johnson had broken her nose and that she’d ended up in hospital as a result.

“Stanley Johnson has not commented publicly on that.

All of that part is fine to be said for context, and would have been ample, there's no need to say more than that. But there was one more part:

"Friends of his have said it did happen, but it was a one-off."

THIS is the part that's unecessary and minimising. It doesn't matter - at all - if it was "a one off" or not. It's a terrible thing to say about a domestic violence issue. Again I dunno if it came from her own thinking or someone in her ear and her just parrotting without thinking.

Crimson Dynamo · 13-03-2023, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I understand her obligation to explain the "unencumbered" facts legally, but there was more info given than needed. Maybe someone was in here ear - I don't know - but consider this part;

Ms Bruce then said: “I’m not disputing what you’re saying, but just so everyone knows what this is referring to, Stanley Johnson’s wife spoke to a journalist, Tom Bower, and she said that Stanley Johnson had broken her nose and that she’d ended up in hospital as a result.

“Stanley Johnson has not commented publicly on that.

All of that part is fine to be said for context, and would have been ample, there's no need to say more than that. But there was one more part:

"Friends of his have said it did happen, but it was a one-off."

THIS is the part that's unecessary and minimising. It doesn't matter - at all - if it was "a one off" or not. It's a terrible thing to say about a domestic violence issue. Again I dunno if it came from her own thinking or someone in her ear and her just parrotting without thinking.

but he could have broken her nose by accident?

Or do we actually know he hit her specifically with intent?

user104658 · 13-03-2023, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

but he could have broken her nose by accident?

Or do we actually know he hit her specifically with intent?

I have a teapot for sale if you're interested LT, £100.

It's an antique.

arista · 13-03-2023, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

but he could have broken her nose by accident?

Or do we actually know he hit her specifically with intent?

It was not
she went to hospital

joeysteele · 13-03-2023, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I understand her obligation to explain the "unencumbered" facts legally, but there was more info given than needed. Maybe someone was in here ear - I don't know - but consider this part;

Ms Bruce then said: “I’m not disputing what you’re saying, but just so everyone knows what this is referring to, Stanley Johnson’s wife spoke to a journalist, Tom Bower, and she said that Stanley Johnson had broken her nose and that she’d ended up in hospital as a result.

“Stanley Johnson has not commented publicly on that.

All of that part is fine to be said for context, and would have been ample, there's no need to say more than that. But there was one more part:

"Friends of his have said it did happen, but it was a one-off."

THIS is the part that's unecessary and minimising. It doesn't matter - at all - if it was "a one off" or not. It's a terrible thing to say about a domestic violence issue. Again I dunno if it came from her own thinking or someone in her ear and her just parrotting without thinking.

Spot on 100% right.
She was appalling.

Whether he broke her nose by accident is immaterial.
How she came to break her nose by his actions are the real relevant points.

She did set out to minimalise it.

Crimson Dynamo · 13-03-2023, 01:00 PM

I have read on wiki that it was an allegation made by his ex wife as told to someone else who then made this public so I guess Mt Johnson could deny this happened?

The Slim Reaper · 13-03-2023, 01:16 PM

Not sure if it was the same wife, but one of his ex wives has stated he hit her on the regular.

It is not likely to be a one off, and even if it was, I agree with TS on the minimising aspect of it.

Crimson Dynamo · 13-03-2023, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Not sure if it was the same wife, but one of his ex wives has stated he hit her on the regular.

It is not likely to be a one off, and even if it was, I agree with TS on the minimising aspect of it.

Yes that is the same one that i read in wiki (who knows how reliable that is tbh)

arista · 13-03-2023, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Not sure if it was the same wife, but one of his ex wives has stated he hit her on the regular.

It is not likely to be a one off, and even if it was, I agree with TS on the minimising aspect of it.

Father Stanley and mother Charlotte.
Boris, centre, is pictured with his brother
and sisters in the seventies.
Mr Bower describes Stanley’s first marriage,
to Mr Johnson’s mother Charlotte,
as violent and unhappy,
quoting her as saying:
‘He broke my nose. He made me feel like I deserved it’

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-affairs.html

user104658 · 13-03-2023, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Father Stanley and mother Charlotte.
Boris, centre, is pictured with his brother
and sisters in the seventies.
Mr Bower describes Stanley’s first marriage,
to Mr Johnson’s mother Charlotte,
as violent and unhappy,
quoting her as saying:
‘He broke my nose. He made me feel like I deserved it’

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-affairs.html

God he looks just like BoJo doesn't he. Those arsehole genes must be unfortunately strong ones.

arista · 13-03-2023, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

God he looks just like BoJo doesn't he. Those arsehole genes must be unfortunately strong ones.

Yes for sure TS

Tom4784 · 13-03-2023, 01:15 PM

Honestly, it just goes to show how broken the BBC is that the Gary Linekar situation went the way it did yet Fiona Bruce, the host of question time, can try to waive off domestic violence because it makes the tories look bad.

user104658 · 13-03-2023, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom4784

Honestly, it just goes to show how broken the BBC is that the Gary Linekar situation went the way it did yet Fiona Bruce, the host of question time, can try to waive off domestic violence because it makes the tories look bad.

I reckon it's worse than that, I don't think it was Fiona Bruce, I think she had a BBC exec literally in her ear. She repeats "...was required to say..." multiple times in that "apology", definitely came from higher up, probably came from a bloke but she'll take the full flak.

Alf · 13-03-2023, 01:20 PM

January 6 was a con job hoax.

America's government is locking up innocent citizens because they're political opponents.

arista · 13-03-2023, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf

January 6 was a con job hoax.

America's government is locking up innocent citizens because they're political opponents.

No Alf
they Broke in

Fact.

Alf · 13-03-2023, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

No Alf
they Broke in

Fact.

You are fake news

Fact

The Slim Reaper · 13-03-2023, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf

You are fake news

Fact

Typical of Arista

posting

fake news

Crimson Dynamo · 13-03-2023, 01:33 PM

Sadly in the 70s men did hit their wives, it wasnt such a big deal then

user104658 · 13-03-2023, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Sadly in the 70s men did hit their wives, it wasnt such a big deal then

I'm sure the violent and abusive ones did yes. They still do. The ones who weren't violent and abusive didn't... and they still don't. I don't know the ins and outs of many boomer relationships to be fair - but of those I do know, I know for a fact that none of my grandparents had violent relationships, nor did either of my wife's sets of grandparents. And from what I know of my mum's dad (he died before I was born) he was a WW2 officer and a rather strict/controlling chap - but he still wasn't throwing hands at any of them.

The idea that wife beating was ever "the norm" is just not true. It was common and more openly common. It's still common behind closed doors. None of it is any sort of excuse.

Crimson Dynamo · 13-03-2023, 01:43 PM

fun fact I once met Fiona Bruce whilst playing golf, she was charming

user104658 · 13-03-2023, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

fun fact I once met Fiona Bruce whilst playing golf, she was charming

"Bopped 'er right on the nose I did, it were normal back in the day."

joeysteele · 13-03-2023, 02:13 PM

She's absolutely awful as presenter of QT.

Although that programme is now maybe beyond making in any way good again by anyone.

She's always struck me as being false.
Smiling to your face.
Then possibly snarling about you behind your back.

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