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Old 27-03-2023, 08:48 AM #1
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Default Police strip-searched children as young as eight

Children as young as eight are being strip-searched by the police, according to a report showing "deeply concerning" and "widespread" failures.

It also found some children were strip-searched in the back of police vans, schools and fast-food outlets.

The report by Children's Commissioner Dame Rachel de Souza showed 2,847 children were strip-searched in England and Wales from 2018 to mid-2022.

The National Police Chiefs' Council will "carefully consider" the findings.

The Runnymede Trust, a race equality charity, said: "Our children are being failed by the state institutions there to protect them."

The report found black children were up to six times more likely to be searched than the overall child population.

More than half (52%) of the searches took place without an appropriate adult confirmed to be present - a legal requirement, except when there is serious risk to a child's life or welfare.

And the data shows 51% of the searches led to no further action.

Dame Rachel requested data in the wake of the Child Q scandal, which came to light in March 2022.

The case of the 15-year-old - strip-searched at school by two female Metropolitan Police officers while on her period and without an appropriate adult present - drew national outrage.

It prompted Dame Rachel to request figures from Scotland Yard, which she found so concerning that she then asked all forces for comparable data.

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Ridiculous.

While some gangs do use children as mules, especially in county lines, safeguarding should never be thrown out the window.
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Ridiculous.

While some gangs do use children as mules, especially in county lines, safeguarding should never be thrown out the window.
Absolutely. It's disgraceful
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I dont know how any human being can deem this appropriate
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I dont know how any human being can deem this appropriate
Because I do believe that some of the people with power don't mind touching kids, as sick as it is to say but those kinds of people do see this as appropriate.

Obviously not everyone with power is supporting Paedophilia just to clarify.
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Let’s be honest there is a reason for this
Criminals with kids giving them weapons or drugs to hold knowing they won’t get searched
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Criminals with kids giving them weapons or drugs to hold knowing they won’t get searched
Many of these strips were performed without a responsible adult present. That is wrong under any circumstance
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Many of these strips were performed without a responsible adult present. That is wrong under any circumstance
The police need powers and support
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The Police do not need the power to be able to strip minors without a parent or guardian present. It seems like, from recent numerous stories of Police abusing their power and sexual assaulting and raping women, they need to be monitored and held accountable a lot more closely than has been happening, not given even more power to abuse
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The Police do not need the power to be able to strip minors without a parent or guardian present. It seems like, from recent numerous stories of Police abusing their power and sexual assaulting and raping women, they need to be monitored and held accountable a lot more closely than has been happening, not given even more power to abuse
In each case there would of been reasonable suspicion and the fact six out ten searches found some thing means they where right

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the su=cess rate is 6/10 so it does work, but they need to follow proceedure
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There are very strict rules on police interactions with minors. Without going into too much detail the police have to consult a responsible adult before they can perform any kind of investigation into someone who is under age. Basically it needs to be a 'bad kid' who is well known to police. I hope the police are following the appropriate steps or they will be liable for disciplinary action
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This year so far has been a one massive PR disaster for the Police. Must be awful being a good copper at the moment
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Where were the parents of these "children as young as 8" while they're in a position to be strip searched by the police? Maybe parents should be held as highly to account as the police.
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Where were the parents of these "children as young as 8" while they're in a position to be strip searched by the police? Maybe parents should be held as highly to account as the police.
Gangs don't target kids with decent home lives and support structures...
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that in no way absolves parents, quite the opposite

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that in no way absolves parents, quite the opposite

fear of blame
Did I say I thought it absolved their blame?
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Even greater reason to come down hard on feckless parents.
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Where were the parents of these "children as young as 8" while they're in a position to be strip searched by the police? Maybe parents should be held as highly to account as the police.
I'm gonna presume that some of these incidents are when the children are at School.
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I'm gonna presume that some of these incidents are when the children are at School.
Apparently in other random public places aswell , absolutely disgusting . And it shows perverse abuse of power .
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We're blaming the parents for strip searches of 'minors' by the police?

There are even stricter rules for strip searches never mind strip searches of 'minors'.

The first word of the thread title is 'Police'. Is this thread about police or parents ?
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We're blaming the parents for strip searches of 'minors' by the police?

There are even stricter rules for strip searches never mind strip searches of 'minors'.

The first word of the thread title is 'Police'. Is this thread about police or parents ?
Parents are often to blame for the behaviours into which children fall. No-one was blaming these parents for the behaviour of the police.
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