[vesavius]

I have never heard such bullshit as she was spouting tonight.

This fever dream of a hierarchal pyramid of power within the house is based on... What? What actual power do the lads have that the others don't? She is really claiming that the house has a patriarchy running it?

As if that house is at all run by a 'patriarchy' Who are the women are the 'most attractive' who are propping this supposed 'patriarchy' up? Hanah? Good grief.

And her pretending that she is powerless and at the bottom of her imaginary pyramid... But oh so brave for calling the def evil patriarchy out despite that of course. She's an absolute freedom fighter and she needs a medal. Probably a Victoria Cross.

Seriously, it was such a stream of utter half baked pseudo intellectual nonsense that is worthy of a 13 year old Tumblr feminist from 2016.

I was embarrassed for her and I was embarrassed that Dean sat there mindlessly nodding.

It was simply all clearly a manipulative attempt to other the lads from the rest of the house and isolate them as a group. To try and set up the idea and seemingly lead the rest of the house in some kind of 'alliance of the oppressed' against them.

[Rustic bauble]

Embarrassing…and the gormless Dean..Martha and Lily think she is so knowledgable and falling for her tripe.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Embarrassing…and the gormless Dean..Martha and Lily think she is so knowledgable and falling for her tripe.

This illusion of intelligence she has, apparently based on staying calm and having a nice accent, is a real thing.

The more that I hear her speak the more I think she is actually quite dense.

She has a sub 6th formers understanding of everything she talks about. She even openly admits that she is not aware of the actual meaning of the performative protest tee shirts that she wears. It's indeed embarrassing.

[Rustic bauble]

Originally Posted by vesavius

This illusion of intelligence she has, apparently based on staying calm and having a nice accent, is a real thing.

The more that I hear her speak the more I think she is actually quite dense.

She has a sub 6th formers understanding of everything she talks about. She even openly admits that she is not aware of the actual meaning of the performative protest tee shirts that she wears. It's indeed embarrassing.

You have hit the nail on the head...she looks like she knows what she is talking about...she sounds like she is intelligent but she actually talks complete rubbish and calls out others for behaviour that she does all the time.

Dean, Martha and Lily are too thick to realise. She can only fool the foolish.

This is why she feels threatened by Khalid because he is quite astute and plays her at her own game. She was initially close to Nathan but she is wary of him because he is not afraid to call her out like he did last night.

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Embarrassing…and the gormless Dean..Martha and Lily think she is so knowledgable and falling for her tripe.

This has really annoyed me,why is she making it about the " straight blokes" against " the Queer people", the fact she's putting Nathan with her group is hilarious... considering he can't stand Martha,her fellow close friend.

Dean is her lapdog, he was just nodding along,he can't think for himself.

Ali is obsessed with the game, yet keeps calling others the ' fake ones' .

[Rustic bauble]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

This has really annoyed me,why is she making it about the " straight blokes" against " the Queer people", the fact she's putting Nathan with her group is hilarious... considering he can't stand Martha,her fellow close friend.

Dean is her lapdog, he was just nodding along,he can't think for himself.

Ali is obsessed with the game, yet keeps calling others the ' fake ones' .

I mean it is a game...but she can't play her game without people like Dean, Martha and Lily who do not have a brain cell between them.
This is why she hates Khalid and Marcello...because they are actually smart and call her out.

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I mean it is a game...but she can't play her game without people like Dean, Martha and Lily who do not have a brain cell between them.
This is why she hates Khalid and Marcello...because they are actually smart and call her out.

True it is a game .

I just don't like how she's using gender & sexuality as a main reason for this ' pyramid divide' , she started the issue with Khaled in the first place...and she's clashed with Marcello. None of the " straight lads" had a problem with her ... until she started her paranoia and psycho analysis BS .

It's interesting she's forgotten about Thomas, I guess she doesn't mind him too much .

[Rustic bauble]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

True it is a game .

I just don't like how she's using gender & sexuality as a main reason for this ' pyramid divide' , she started the issue with Khaled in the first place...and she's clashed with Marcello. None of the " straight lads" had a problem with her ... until she started her paranoia and psycho analysis BS .

It's interesting she's forgotten about Thomas, I guess she doesn't mind him too much .

I mean she also talks all the time as though Khalid started the whole fall out off...when she was the one who started everything by calling him fake...she is deluded and as I have always said she will twist everything to suit her agenda.
When she gets called out for it she walks off.
She is just playing the victim using the Gender and Sexuality issue...and of course Dean will see himself as a victim too...

[Liam-]

She was right actually

[The Grinch]

Originally Posted by Liam-

She was right actually

You understood what she was saying?

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Liam-

She was right actually

How so?

[JingleJones]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I have never heard such bullshit as she was spouting tonight.

This fever dream of a hierarchal pyramid of power within the house is based on... What? What actual power do the lads have that the others don't? She is really claiming that the house has a patriarchy running it?

As if that house is at all run by a 'patriarchy' Who are the women are the 'most attractive' who are propping this supposed 'patriarchy' up? Hanah? Good grief.

And her pretending that she is powerless and at the bottom of her imaginary pyramid... But oh so brave for calling the def evil patriarchy out despite that of course. She's an absolute freedom fighter and she needs a medal. Probably a Victoria Cross.

Seriously, it was such a stream of utter half baked pseudo intellectual nonsense that is worthy of a 13 year old Tumblr feminist from 2016.

I was embarrassed for her and I was embarrassed that Dean sat there mindlessly nodding.

It was simply all clearly a manipulative attempt to other the lads from the rest of the house and isolate them as a group. To try and set up the idea and seemingly lead the rest of the house in some kind of 'alliance of the oppressed' against them.

Ikr! No wonder she’s so lifeless all the time, she has to be exhausted from all that over analyzing tbh.. i see it simply as people that get on with eachother hanging out with eachother and not others that they don’t get on with as well.. it really doesn’t have to be any more complicated than that.. but leave it to Ali i supose

[Merry Mockmas]

Ali has spent too much time on Twitter.

And I say that as someone that likes Twitter.

[Abra]

Yeah she talks utter bullshit

[Ammi]

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Ammi

[ChristmasNeeve]

It's stupid, she's really trying to push the idea that she's a victim of oppression in there. She isn't

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's stupid, she's really trying to push the idea that she's a victim of oppression in there. She isn't

I saw this on Reddit after I posted this and thought that it's interesting that even other 4th wave intersectional feminist types are calling her out...

"Ali is a well educated, relatively privileged, conventionally attractive white woman who does hold a lot of power in the house simply in her ability to articulate herself. she is obviously not afraid of speaking her mind either and has gained respect from other members of the house such as Lily.

It’s actually tone deaf and quite offensive for her to disregard the impact of other aspects of intersectionality and it doesn’t make her look smart or analytical for coming up with a “hierarchy” instead it looks like she watched “barbie” and called it a day. pleaseeee."

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's stupid, she's really trying to push the idea that she's a victim of oppression in there. She isn't

She is ginger though.

The great Eric Cartman off South Park does teach in one of his passages that "gingers have no souls."

And what he says must be true.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

She is ginger though.

[Ammi]

……’she is ginger though’….Martha is that you…?…

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Ammi

……’she is ginger though’….Martha is that you…?…

Ginger witch would have been funnier but Ali wants to be known as the red witch

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Ammi

……’she is ginger though’….Martha is that you…?…

You've got me.

It's giving Psychic Sally vibes.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's stupid, she's really trying to push the idea that she's a victim of oppression in there. She isn't

It was another attempt to get dean on board as a foot soldier
Three main targets dean then those that support the three main targets

Basically saying to dean they have no use for you

[Parmy]

I felt like nominating her for the bb contribution thread.