[Niamh.]

Most people are probably familiar with this one, anyone watching? I've just put on Ep 1, such an awful case, poor little girl

Youtube video

[UserSince2005]

Pointless documentary, everyone knows she is now Katy Perry.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Pointless documentary, everyone knows she is now Katy Perry.

I hadn't heard that one before

[Cherie]

I was aware of the case, but never of the circumstances around it, what the police put that family through was pretty despicable

[Ammi]

…did you finish watching it…?…I guess, although there are obviously many differences…this was kind of a Madeleine McCann case of it’s time in that the main questioning was…was it someone who came into where she was and took her or was it a ‘closer to home’ thing….i think that I recall the brother being implicated at some point but that must have gone cold as it’s still a cold case…but yeah, I know it’s not a direct comparison in some ways but it does have the vein of being the Madeleine McCann case of the time in some regards…

[Cherie]

The DNA under her fingernails did not match the family, nor the guy who said he did it, though they ruled him out but not the family...bizarre

[Alf]

Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve

I hadn't heard that one before

That's because you don't drive down the correct lane on the conspiracy theory super highway.

You need to change lanes from time to time. I know you've got an interest in a good conspiracy theory.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

That's because you don't drive down the correct lane on the conspiracy theory super highway.

You need to change lanes from time to time. I know you've got an interest in a good conspiracy theory.

I won't lie Alfred I do love a good conspiracy from time to time

[Alf]

Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve

I won't lie Alfred I do love a good conspiracy from time to time

You should be ashamed that I've took over you as Tibbs number 1 conspiracy theorist.

And I don't plan on relinquishing my title.

[arista]

[it’s a bizarre case as well because if this was
some type of ‘stalker killer’…a psychopath
personality etc…did they never kill again]


With so many FBI and Cops on the case
how he will not be killing little girls
for a while....................

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

[it’s a bizarre case as well because if this was
some type of ‘stalker killer’…a psychopath
personality etc…did they never kill again]


With so many FBI and Cops on the case
how he will not be killing little girls
for a while....................

…yeah of course, Arista…it was a very public case but so have been many ‘serial killer’ cases that have still gone on to kill more victims…

[Vicky.]

I don't see how it could be a stranger or random pedo when you take the 'ransom note' into consideration.

I remember reading about this years back and my theory was it was the brother, and the parents helped cover it up so they didn't lose both kids. But watching Burke on doctor Phil made me doubt that a bit. Interesting case tho

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I don't see how it could be a stranger or random pedo when you take the 'ransom note' into consideration.

I remember reading about this years back and my theory was it was the brother, and the parents helped cover it up so they didn't lose both kids. But watching Burke on doctor Phil made me doubt that a bit. Interesting case tho

The brother is so weird.

[Vicky.]

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/for...d.php?t=310241

My essay about the brother..so weird looking back on your old threads

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve

Most people are probably familiar with this one, anyone watching? I've just put on Ep 1, such an awful case, poor little girl

Youtube video

Did you finish this Niamh? any thoughts?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie Christmas

Did you finish this Niamh? any thoughts?

I have about 20 minutes of the last episode to go, I'll finish it at lunch time and get back to you

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie Christmas

Did you finish this Niamh? any thoughts?

Ok just finished it

Spoiler:

Definitely don't think that the family were involved, I see at the end they decided that the DNA might have been contaminated. I honestly think it was that guy John Mark Kerr. He seems like the type that would write a letter like the ransom note was too, rambling and stupid

[Ammi]

Spoiler:

…wow at John Ramsey’s older daughter being killed in,a car accident as well…that’s something I hadn’t known, it’s terribly tragic how much loss the family have had in their lives…

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve

Ok just finished it

Spoiler:

Definitely don't think that the family were involved, I see at the end they decided that the DNA might have been contaminated. I honestly think it was that guy John Mark Kerr. He seems like the type that would write a letter like the ransom note was too, rambling and stupid

Spoiler:

I agree, the manner in which she was killed would hopefully rule out family members and also why would they not move the body as the house would be the first place to be searched, John Mark Kerr knew aspects of the case that were never made public but it appears the police were so keen on sticking to the theory that it was the family did this that they ignored it, interesting as well that both cases resulted in compensation to the family and to Burke

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie Christmas

Spoiler:

I agree, the manner in which she was killed would hopefully rule out family members and also why would they not move the body as the house would be the first place to be searched, John Mark Kerr knew aspects of the case that were never made public but it appears the police were so keen on sticking to the theory that it was the family did this that they ignored it, interesting as well that both cases resulted in compensation to the family and to Burke

Spoiler:

Exactly, the theory about Burke hitting her and causing the head injury and then her parents doing the rest to cover it up is just such an outlandish and macabre stretch. That they would sexually abuse and torture her to hide the fact her brother hit her is just so grotesque and that people believed it as well with literally no evidence is crazy. I'm not saying it's beyond the realms of possibility to say they might have covered for their son but I mean, say she fell down the stairs or something, there would have been zero need for all the rest. John Marks confession and the details he went into sounds more like the kind of sick mind that would do that to a 6 year old.
I feel so bad Patsy died so young as well with nothing resolved and all that horriblness hanging over their lives

[Niamh.]

I had looked into this case before on a Podcast I listen to, I know that people really thought Burke had something to do with it as well, maybe even more so than the parents (or at least that he accidentally killed her and they covered it up) but

Spoiler:

I just couldn't imagine the parents sexually abusing her as a way to cover up for Burke, that's mental to me

[Vicky.]

Spoiler:

I think the sexual abuse was a separate topic, and maybe to do with the party the night before

.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Spoiler:

I think the sexual abuse was a separate topic, and maybe to do with the party the night before

.

But

Spoiler:

If it was from the night before how come the same paintbrush that was used to abuse her was also used as the handle on the garrote? seems like all these things happened that night, wasn't there blood found on her underwear which would mean it happened that night?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve

But

Spoiler:

If it was from the night before how come the same paintbrush that was used to abuse her was also used as the handle on the garrote? seems like all these things happened that night, wasn't there blood found on her underwear which would mean it happened that night?

I didn't know that part, or had forgotten it. Think I need to watch this and rewatch the CBS one too.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I didn't know that part, or had forgotten it. Think I need to watch this and rewatch the CBS one too.

Spoiler:

I think The Netflix doc is a bit biased towards the family not being involved because as far as I remember I thought it was more of a possibility before this one (it's easy to forget details though) although the one I listened to before may have been more biased in the opposite direction