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Default Inclusion the LGBTQ just want inclusion, they shout.

Yet there they are, isolating themselves into the LGBTQ group, separated from everyone else, just like every other BB house splits the last few years.
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Maybe they are grouping themselves by intelligence and not how they identify.
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Maybe they are grouping themselves by intelligence and not how they identify.

You need to say which side is which, cause we have someone in a woman's body claiming to be a man in one group. please don't tell me thats the intelligent side.
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Who are you classing as intelligent and otherwise … the groups seem to be a mishmash of intelligence on the face of it


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Maybe they are grouping themselves by intelligence and not how they identify.
Such nonsense.

Explain Sam being in that group, because he isn't exactly a big brain. Even the others are midwits at best.

This is not a group built around intelligence
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I think people naturally gravitate towards others similar to themselves so this isn't really a surprise
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I think people naturally gravitate towards others similar to themselves so this isn't really a surprise
So inclusion isn't all that then


And what do you mean by similar to themselves?


Cause I can't see Sam being up for a kick about with Zelah or nancy
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That is true tbf.
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Yet there they are, isolating themselves into the LGBTQ group, separated from everyone else, just like every other BB house splits the last few years.
I noticed that.

Sam seemed to be quite happy that there were a couple excluded from the 2 main groups.

I didn't see much empathy there at all.
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I noticed that.

Sam seemed to be quite happy that there were a couple excluded from the 2 main groups.

I didn't see much empathy there at all.
He never mentioned Caroline at all

I think whats happening just imitates what goes on in workplaces all over the country groups gravitate towards each other and you will always have people who float in between

When I worked in a school you had the group who used the staff room....me because I only worked 2 days a week so I wasn't in any of the groups....the English/EU were in another classroom, the Muslims in another, the Sikhs in another and then you had us in the staff room That said if there was birthday or something people went out as a class which had a mix of people and of course the classroom staff were mixed so we did interact just not all of the time
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I noticed that.

Sam seemed to be quite happy that there were a couple excluded from the 2 main groups.

I didn't see much empathy there at all.

He didn’t even mention Caroline

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Funny how when straight people stick together it’s “natural,” but when LGBTQ people do it, it’s “isolation.”
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Funny how when straight people stick together it’s “natural,” but when LGBTQ people do it, it’s “isolation.”
Such a strawman comment.

The point being made here is that the individuals that go on for days and days about inclusion and driving down division are the fastest to form an exclusive in group and are happy, to the point of making light of it, to see lone individuals not included in any group at all.

It's lack of consistency between what they say and how they behave that's being discussed.
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Such a strawman comment.

The point being made here is that the individuals that go on for days and days about inclusion and driving down division are the fastest to form an exclusive in group and are happy, to the point of making light of it, to see lone individuals not included in any group at all.

It's lack of consistency between what they say and how they behave that's being discussed.
Or maybe it’s not hypocrisy at all. When you’re part of a group that’s been mocked or sidelined for years, you tend to gravitate toward people who understand that experience. That’s not exclusion. That’s self-preservation.
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Or maybe it’s not hypocrisy at all. When you’re part of a group that’s been mocked or sidelined for years, you tend to gravitate toward people who understand that experience. That’s not exclusion. That’s self-preservation.
oh, get on... You act like it's still the 80s

The double standard is clear, no matter how hard some work to rationalise or make excuses for it.
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oh, get on... You act like it's still the 80s

The double standard is clear, no matter how hard some work to rationalise or make excuses for it.
It’s not about the 80s. It’s about patterns that still exist now. LGBTQ people still deal with bias, subtle or not. Pointing that out isn’t making excuses. It’s just reality that some prefer to ignore.
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Funny how when straight people stick together it’s “natural,” but when LGBTQ people do it, it’s “isolation.”
I personally would say that it's narrow-minded from both sides.

Even if it's psychologically a common thing for most people to do.
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Sam didnt mention feyisola, either.
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Agreed, Sam handled that badly. Mocking anyone’s age is cheap and hypocritical


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I mean by the exact same logic, your thread could have been about the heterosexual people making an exclusive group together - and I think it says more about you than you realise that this is instead the narrative of your thread
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I mean by the exact same logic, your thread could have been about the heterosexual people making an exclusive group together - and I think it says more about you than you realise that this is instead the narrative of your thread
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I mean by the exact same logic, your thread could have been about the heterosexual people making an exclusive group together - and I think it says more about you than you realise that this is instead the narrative of your thread
There isn't an exclusive heterosexual group though.
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