[rionablue]

I have only just caught up on tonights episode and was raging when Andrew felt so DRAINED by the trial he decded to take a NAP when he came back instead of doing his duties. What a f ucking plonker. It was one of the easiest trials ever. And dont get me STARTED on James. He is one of the most chauvanistic men ever to go into the jungle. I have gone RIGHT OFF HIM

[Marsh.]

The women don't do anything so the least they could do was washing a few tin pots.

[Christmas Lights]

Andrew always seems tired ,and it was only a few washing up pots but again it looked like it was turning into a unnecessary squabble.

[Rustic bauble]

He is a bit of a wimp....he did well in the task although it wasn’t terribly difficult. He needs to man up... I don’t think he is respected in there because of his bizarre behaviour.

[bots]

maybe Andrew sensed the hostility toward him and thought **** this, i'm off for a nap. I think the others are intimidating him and his little outbursts are his way of rebelling

[Ammi]

...didn’t he just say than he would do them after his nap..?...it only seemed to be James and Ian who had such an issue with him having a nap and we see others napping in the camp all of the time...James even redressed Kate for being fine with it and not having an issue...maybe they didn’t like that him enjoying his moment of glory for doing so well in the trial.../...it felt like pantomime season with the two ugly sisters...get back to your chores, Cinders.....


...disclaimer: they are not ugly people though, but they seemed to be feeding each other with their annoyances...

[Jessica.]

He just wanted a nap, he hasn't slept well during any of the nights and knowing he was headed for a trial probably made him lose sleep too. He was going to help with the dishes after the nap anyway. They should have just got on with their lives.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

He just wanted a nap, he hasn't slept well during any of the nights and knowing he was headed for a trial probably made him lose sleep too. He was going to help with the dishes after the nap anyway. They should have just got on with their lives.

...yeah i think that doing so well in the trial and feeling proud of himself...?...probably released an army of sleeping hormones that just took over...but he he always intended to wash the pots after his nap, which is what he said to Ian...that he hadn’t realised that they had to be done immediately...which they didn’t...sharing chores is important in that environment/dynamics, obviously ...but sleep and rest is also equally as important...and saying that he would do them after his rest was the perfect balance...

[Christmas Dynasnow]

get him Ian

[Cherry Christmas]

They made such a big deal about a 70 year old women doing the dishes, but James gave Caitlyn that job, there does seem to be easier jobs like the ridiculous one pumping the gas, I didn't see any issue with doing the dishes later, it was between Caitlyn and Andrew, she wanted to do them, he wanted to do them later, why should she get preference as to when they were done? he was only taking a nap so we have to assume he would have got round to them in an hour or so? there is definitely more to his treatment in there than we are seeing and he is pushing their buttons, that is how I see it, not sure why Ian needed to get involved, James is the leader, it was none of Ians business in all honesty

[Cherry Christmas]

When you see the size of the vat they have to bring the dishes to get them washed it is no job for a 70 year old woman James!

[Christmas Dynasnow]

I think maybe James is a tiny weeny bit of a woman hater

[Parmy]

He was kipping with one eye open...he's a trouble maker, not a team player

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Cherie

They made such a big deal about a 70 year old women doing the dishes, but James gave Caitlyn that job, there does seem to be easier jobs like the ridiculous one pumping the gas, I didn't see any issue with doing the dishes later, it was between Caitlyn and Andrew, she wanted to do them, he wanted to do them later, why should she get preference as to when they were done? he was only taking a nap so we have to assume he would have got round to them in an hour or so? there is definitely more to his treatment in there than we are seeing and he is pushing their buttons, that is how I see it, not sure why Ian needed to get involved, James is the leader, it was none of Ians business in all honesty

Yep agree, Andrew can be a bit annoying but I don't see what their big issue was with it, what's the harm in waiting half an hour or so, they're doing **** all in there all day anyway. I'd have lost the plot with ian and James trying to order me around, no one else seemed bothered only "King of the Chivalry James" such an annoying idiot (oh and Ian but he's annoyed by everything apparently)

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think maybe James is a tiny weeny bit of a woman hater

I get the impression he wants women "in their place" and gets annoyed when they don't do as their told and say thank you

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yep agree, Andrew can be a bit annoying but I don't see what their big issue was with it, what's the harm in waiting half an hour or so, they're doing **** all in there all day anyway. I'd have lost the plot with ian and James trying to order me around, no one else seemed bothered only "King of the Chivalry James" such an annoying idiot (oh and Ian but he's annoyed by everything apparently)

"King of the Chivalry James"

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I get the impression he wants women "in their place" and gets annoyed when they don't do as their told and say thank you

Yeah he does come across a bit like ‘me man, you woman, I hunt, you clean’ in trying very hard to be chivalrous and ‘respectable’ he’s portraying himself as a very agressive control freak, that thinks he knows better than everyone else, especially women

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Yeah he does come across a bit like ‘me man, you woman, I hunt, you clean’ in trying very hard to be chivalrous and ‘respectable’ he’s portraying himself as a very agressive control freak, that thinks he knows better than everyone else, especially women

In a nutshell

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Yeah he does come across a bit like ‘me man, you woman, I hunt, you clean’ in trying very hard to be chivalrous and ‘respectable’ he’s portraying himself as a very agressive control freak, that thinks he knows better than everyone else, especially women

pretty much

[Tinsel Toes]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Yeah he does come across a bit like ‘me man, you woman, I hunt, you clean’ in trying very hard to be chivalrous and ‘respectable’ he’s portraying himself as a very agressive control freak, that thinks he knows better than everyone else, especially women

Good assessment of him Liam

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Yes, I get the feeling that James is very old fashioned in his views.
But I like him anyway.
It's Ian who was out of order.
Andrew only wanted a nap.
He would have helped with the dishes afterwards.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Yes, I get the feeling that James is very old fashioned in his views.
But I like him anyway.
It's Ian who was out of order.
Andrew only wanted a nap.
He would have helped with the dishes afterwards.

They were both being dicks, you can't just excuse one of them because he has big muscles Vanessa

[bots]

i'm going for a nap, back in a bit

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

They were both being dicks, you can't just excuse one of them because he has big muscles Vanessa

I like Ian, I just think it wasn't his place to say anything to Andrew.
James as the camp leader should have done that.

[Mitchell]

Andrew had just won them dinner in his first proper trial and the first solo one, he probably had an adrenaline rush during the trial too, let him have an hours nap, the dishes can wait.