[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes, it's a very pick a side type of mentality and I think that's certainly come from social media and the internet. People aren't thinking things through for themselves so much anymore

Well it's because a lot of people don't like to think.

It's always been that way, hence why so many people say and do the most insane **** imaginable.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Well it's because a lot of people don't like to think.

It's always been that way, hence why so many people say and do the most insane **** imaginable.

…. and believe in conspiracies, ghosts , little green men and Nessie …


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[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The blame will be placed squarely on "TERFs" - the rhetoric will be that these kids were miserable "because they were the wrong gender", were jappy to be trand and then felt pressured out of it by anti-trans rhetoric and are now suicidal.

Note that the psych data does not support that --at all-- and there has always been a clear, presistent decline in mental health at roughly 4 or 5 years post transition (when temporary catharsis wears off and the underlying mental health struggles start to resurface).

This will be ignored entirely and reframed.

[user104658]

What I will say as a major positive of my daughter's school is that their approach on gender has essentially been to let them experiment/play and just not really get involved, but to nip bullying of any kind in the bud. This has been a major positive in both ways IMO. There was a large cohort of girls suddenly identifying as boyd early on ... but the reaction was "OK sure whatever you do you". They didn't get special attention for it and they didn't get to cry persecution because it was accepted. On the same vein, when 90% of those girls "backtracked" to their natal gender and original name, there was no shame or embarrassment, it was just an "Oh OK you're Susan again, hi Susan " with little to no fanfare. Makes it easier to "back out" if it goes without judgement.

Tell you what though it's bloody confusing as a parent!

"What about your pal Mikey?"
"...who?"
"Mikey!! Mike! Your friend??"
"shrug"
"...used to be Michelle at your primary school??"
"Oh yah Michelle is Michelle again sorry I frgot "

I struggle to keep up. One of her friends had different 5 names in less than a year and my daughter got mad if I had no idea who she was talking about . Plus one of the names was "Carlos". Carlos! This is a very, very pasty pale Scottish adolescent female. Carlos.

[ChristmasNeeve]

That sounds like a really sensible approach TS, let the kids work through it on their own, go through puberty and most will desist without having done anything irreversible or damaging to their bodies

[Christmas Dynasnow]

the actual war

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

the actual war

All kids.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

What I will say as a major positive of my daughter's school is that their approach on gender has essentially been to let them experiment/play and just not really get involved, but to nip bullying of any kind in the bud. This has been a major positive in both ways IMO. There was a large cohort of girls suddenly identifying as boyd early on ... but the reaction was "OK sure whatever you do you". They didn't get special attention for it and they didn't get to cry persecution because it was accepted. On the same vein, when 90% of those girls "backtracked" to their natal gender and original name, there was no shame or embarrassment, it was just an "Oh OK you're Susan again, hi Susan " with little to no fanfare. Makes it easier to "back out" if it goes without judgement.

Tell you what though it's bloody confusing as a parent!

"What about your pal Mikey?"
"...who?"
"Mikey!! Mike! Your friend??"
"shrug"
"...used to be Michelle at your primary school??"
"Oh yah Michelle is Michelle again sorry I frgot "

I struggle to keep up. One of her friends had different 5 names in less than a year and my daughter got mad if I had no idea who she was talking about . Plus one of the names was "Carlos". Carlos! This is a very, very pasty pale Scottish adolescent female. Carlos.

Wow that's basically the perfect approach.

[Father Chris Mouse]

Youtube video

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Zizu

…. and believe in conspiracies, ghosts , little green men and Nessie …


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Possibly.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Swan

Youtube video

what a bigot though

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Essex schoolgirls sexually assaulted in gender-neutral toilets



A school has called in police over allegations that female pupils were sexually
assaulted in its gender-neutral lavatories.

A teenage boy has been arrested over four allegations of “serious sexual
assault” at the Essex school. The Daily Telegraph understands three of the
alleged attacks took place in lavatories used by boys and girls.

The case has led MPs and campaigners to question the safety of mixed-sex
lavatories and changing rooms days before the Government is expected to
release its transgender guidance for schools.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...utral-toilets/

[Good King Glennceslas]

What I don’t think LT realises is that mixed toilets aren’t boys and girls with the little man or woman taken off the doors. If they’re anything like the mixed toilets here then it would be a corridor with separate cubicles of toilets. More fear mongering for easily led.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

What I don’t think LT realises is that mixed toilets aren’t boys and girls with the little man or woman taken off the doors. If they’re anything like the mixed toilets here then it would be a corridor with separate cubicles of toilets. More fear mongering for easily led.

A lot of the school gender-neutral toilets are LITERALLY boys/girls toilets with the sign taken off the door.

I'm not sure where you went to school that would have had the budget to be building whole new purpose-built toilet blocks to pander to gender identity... but it certainly wasn't the UK state school system .

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

What I don’t think LT realises is that mixed toilets aren’t boys and girls with the little man or woman taken off the doors. If they’re anything like the mixed toilets here then it would be a corridor with separate cubicles of toilets. More fear mongering for easily led.

And if they ain't like the ones there?

[arista]

[A teenage boy has been arrested over four allegations
of “serious sexual
assault” at the Essex school.
The Daily Telegraph understands
three of the
alleged attacks took place in lavatories
used by boys and girls.]



This is Terrible.

[Good King Glennceslas]

Originally Posted by parmnion

And if they ain't like the ones there?

Sounds like if anyone wanted to sexually assault someone, it doesn’t matter where they’d do it. Or are you telling me no women have ever been raped in a woman’s toilet?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Sounds like if anyone wanted to sexually assault someone, it doesn’t matter where they’d do it. Or are you telling me no women have ever been raped in a woman’s toilet?

Rubbish argument. "Rapists exist so we shouldn't bother trying to keep anywhere safe."

So you actually stand by that logic? "Why bother vetting preschool staff? Waste of time and energy! If paedos really want to get at children they'll get 'em anyway!"

[Good King Glennceslas]

The girl wasn’t sexually assaulted because it was a gender neutral toilet she was sexually assaulted because of a sicko.

It’s not a rubbish argument at all it just doesn’t fit your narrative that it happened because it was a gender neutral toilet.

[Tinsel Toes]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

The girl wasn’t sexually assaulted because it was a gender neutral toilet she was sexually assaulted because of a sicko.

It’s not a rubbish argument at all it just doesn’t fit your narrative that it happened because it was a gender neutral toilet.

Of course she was , he wouldn't have had more that one opportunity if the girls had their own toilets, sick or not.

[Good King Glennceslas]

Sure

[Rustic bauble]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Sounds like if anyone wanted to sexually assault someone, it doesn’t matter where they’d do it. Or are you telling me no women have ever been raped in a woman’s toilet?

….and you don’t think gender neutral toilets accommodates opportunism

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Sounds like if anyone wanted to sexually assault someone, it doesn’t matter where they’d do it. Or are you telling me no women have ever been raped in a woman’s toilet?

So instead of throwing the key away, you want it handed to them instead?

[Tinsel Toes]

Originally Posted by parmnion

So instead of throwing the key away, you want it handed to them instead?

He obviously does Parm

[bots]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

The girl wasn’t sexually assaulted because it was a gender neutral toilet she was sexually assaulted because of a sicko.

It’s not a rubbish argument at all it just doesn’t fit your narrative that it happened because it was a gender neutral toilet.

you are tying yourself in knots trying to justify circumstances that make it easy for predators to attack vulnerable people. Your words are obviously not genuinely held