[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by LemonJam

True talent is going. Jokes and 'hotties' are going through. It's a load of bull now.

Anyone agree?

Yes, I do. It is supposed to be a talent contest. But it is not. It has become a popularity contest - which is wrong.

I hate to say it - but I think a lot of it is stupid girls voting for who they fancy and who they feel sorry for. The same type of girls who would always choose their boyfriends over their friends. Not very loyal to their own sex.

How would they feel if they were talented and few people voted for them because most of the girls were voting for the less talented guys.

Forget popularity, sex, pity - the only thing that should count is TALENT.

[Harry!]

I am a male and I do like John and Edward. I find all the other acts 'boring' really. They are good singers but I find them borning. J + E would be the only concert I would see because the others are just dull.

[MarkWaldorf]

Originally Posted by Darenn

I agree with you to an extent.
I wouldn't say I'm 'deluded' into thinking he's got a good voice.
I know he's one of the weakest singers left, but I like the tone of his voice, and if he was mentored a tad better, could become relevant and quite current. I'm not getting into this argument again though.

Totally agree about guys voting Lucie because she's 'hot'.

The delude part was really for girls who couldn't give a **** if he can sing, they just like him because he's good looking - which is often the case.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by MarkWaldorf

What the actual ****? Lloyd is more on the looks vote. Joe is one of the most vocally talented there. Joe and Lloyd have two different fanbases, so you can't even compare them. Lloyd's stans on Facebook write comments like 'if Joe gets hit by a bus, I wouldn't care' because they know he's a threat. Joe was FAR from the favourite at the start but proved everyone wrong by being consistantly good and he does what ever he's given to a great standard.

Lucie is a ballad singer and plus she's a female. The 'How Will I Know' performance was a mess and you could tell by her vocals she was struggling with it until it came to a belt.

Joe one of the most vocally talented? JOE?! All the girls and overs are streets ahead of him.

He hasn't been consistently good at all

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by courtney123

no, not really,,
most of the people are very good.

this.

Yeah Im enjoying seeing all the acts perform this year. John and Edward however are doing it for me.

Anyone could be in the bottom 2. Instead of complaining, get off your arse and vote vote vote!

[Arneldo]

I don't agree. I think the most talented, best performers and most memorable acts are getting through.

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by Recylopse

I am a male and I do like John and Edward. I find all the other acts 'boring' really. They are good singers but I find them borning. J + E would be the only concert I would see because the others are just dull.

this. Yeah I would like to see John and Edward live in a gig. I would like to go on the x factor tour but theres only crappy seats left, but I would be sitting there waiting mainly for John and Edward

[MarkWaldorf]

Originally Posted by Tom

Joe one of the most vocally talented? JOE?! All the girls and overs are streets ahead of him.

He hasn't been consistently good at all

I wouldn't say Rachel, Olly or Danyl were any better than him. Rachel isn't as strong as she should be, Olly is no remarkable talent and Danyl has an awful tone and is only capable of holding a high note, but he has good performance skills.

And I think you'll find he has been one of the most consistant. Even Jamie has struggled with being out of his comfort zone. Joe's took on 3 different styles of songs and has got praise from the judges each time ('dark horse', 'note perfect', 'one to watch', 'you take what evers thrown at you'). I don't want to seem like I'm making out Joe's perfect because I'm not, I just can't understand how you can deny he's been one of the most consistant. Especialy seeing as he came from basically nowhere in the first show to now favourite to win.

Anyway it's clear you don't like Joe so I'm not going to get in a debate about it.

[Marc]

Originally Posted by LemonJam

True talent is going. Jokes and 'hotties' are going through. It's a load of bull now.

Anyone agree?

Couldn't agree any more!
The most diverse and interesting act of this years series has been voted off. Its ridiculous how the viewers vote. Lloyd and the twins aren't good!! ffs

[Beastie]

just dont watch the x factor then if you think its ****. end of.

[Mrluvaluva]

The voting public are so fickle. Not everybody votes for the right reasons. However, everyone has different tastes and not everyone is going to agree with the results. Personally I find it ridiculous that John & Edward are still in the competition but people out there must like them.

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

The voting public are so fickle. Not everybody votes for the right reasons. However, everyone has different tastes and not everyone is going to agree with the results. Personally I find it ridiculous that John & Edward are still in the competition but people out there must like them.

Im not fickle. Freddie was ALWAYS my favourite in bb10 and I only voted for him. Well I did vote for David in the final week but thats because there was no freddie left!

John and Edward have always been my favourites and I will keep voting for them every week!

[WOMBAI]

In my opinion John and Edward provide novelty value because they are identical twins.

Either of them on their own - wouldn't have made it through to boot camp.

Even as a twosome - they are just like a pair of teenage boys clowning around and having fun. What is so entertaining about that - you can see it on any street, anywhere. It may bring a smile to your face, supported by the outfits, background music, dancers, lighting effects and everything - but it is hardly what you would talent.

I think some people like them just because most don't.

I honestly don't think Lucie is that hot but i think she is a very good singer, very.

[bronaaaa]

Miss Frank left?
Dam I knew this year would be a fail

[Tom]

Originally Posted by MarkWaldorf

I wouldn't say Rachel, Olly or Danyl were any better than him. Rachel isn't as strong as she should be, Olly is no remarkable talent and Danyl has an awful tone and is only capable of holding a high note, but he has good performance skills.

And I think you'll find he has been one of the most consistant. Even Jamie has struggled with being out of his comfort zone. Joe's took on 3 different styles of songs and has got praise from the judges each time ('dark horse', 'note perfect', 'one to watch', 'you take what evers thrown at you'). I don't want to seem like I'm making out Joe's perfect because I'm not, I just can't understand how you can deny he's been one of the most consistant. Especialy seeing as he came from basically nowhere in the first show to now favourite to win.

Anyway it's clear you don't like Joe so I'm not going to get in a debate about it.

Danyl, Lucie and Jamie have all been consistent and have been pulled up on completely bizarre points

Olly has also been quite consistent and we're seeing an improvement, and Stacey and even Rachel get good feedback each week.

All of those are imo much stronger

[Tom4784]

X Factor isn't a talent contest, never was and never will be. It's all about entertaining the audience and I bet Simon was rubbing his hands in glee when Danyl was in the bottom two as they created a talking point to keep everyone on about X Factor. Next week is guarenteed to start with a hideous 'LAST WEEK THERE WAS SHOCKS AND CONTROVERSY! THE LOUDER MY BOOMING VOICE IS THE MORE YOU'LL THINK THIS SHOW MEANS SOMETHING!' voiceover and they'll go on about it forever. It's liek the Laura thing last year, they loved it as it generated buzz about the show.

Simon loves it he really does.

[Jords]

Im afraid I have to agree!
Big Brother is about jokes and hotties,
not X Factor!

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

X Factor isn't a talent contest, never was and never will be. It's all about entertaining the audience and I bet Simon was rubbing his hands in glee when Danyl was in the bottom two as they created a talking point to keep everyone on about X Factor. Next week is guarenteed to start with a hideous 'LAST WEEK THERE WAS SHOCKS AND CONTROVERSY! THE LOUDER MY BOOMING VOICE IS THE MORE YOU@LL THINK THIS SHOW MEANS SOMETHING!' voiceover.

Simon loves it he really does.

He was probably genuinely annoyed as well, Danyl is the only one he can take to America