[Tom]

Originally Posted by MarkWaldorf

What the actual ****? Lloyd is more on the looks vote. Joe is one of the most vocally talented there. Joe and Lloyd have two different fanbases, so you can't even compare them. Lloyd's stans on Facebook write comments like 'if Joe gets hit by a bus, I wouldn't care' because they know he's a threat. Joe was FAR from the favourite at the start but proved everyone wrong by being consistantly good and he does what ever he's given to a great standard.

Lucie is a ballad singer and plus she's a female. The 'How Will I Know' performance was a mess and you could tell by her vocals she was struggling with it until it came to a belt.

Joe one of the most vocally talented? JOE?! All the girls and overs are streets ahead of him.

He hasn't been consistently good at all

[MarkWaldorf]

Originally Posted by Tom

Joe one of the most vocally talented? JOE?! All the girls and overs are streets ahead of him.

He hasn't been consistently good at all

I wouldn't say Rachel, Olly or Danyl were any better than him. Rachel isn't as strong as she should be, Olly is no remarkable talent and Danyl has an awful tone and is only capable of holding a high note, but he has good performance skills.

And I think you'll find he has been one of the most consistant. Even Jamie has struggled with being out of his comfort zone. Joe's took on 3 different styles of songs and has got praise from the judges each time ('dark horse', 'note perfect', 'one to watch', 'you take what evers thrown at you'). I don't want to seem like I'm making out Joe's perfect because I'm not, I just can't understand how you can deny he's been one of the most consistant. Especialy seeing as he came from basically nowhere in the first show to now favourite to win.

Anyway it's clear you don't like Joe so I'm not going to get in a debate about it.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by MarkWaldorf

I wouldn't say Rachel, Olly or Danyl were any better than him. Rachel isn't as strong as she should be, Olly is no remarkable talent and Danyl has an awful tone and is only capable of holding a high note, but he has good performance skills.

And I think you'll find he has been one of the most consistant. Even Jamie has struggled with being out of his comfort zone. Joe's took on 3 different styles of songs and has got praise from the judges each time ('dark horse', 'note perfect', 'one to watch', 'you take what evers thrown at you'). I don't want to seem like I'm making out Joe's perfect because I'm not, I just can't understand how you can deny he's been one of the most consistant. Especialy seeing as he came from basically nowhere in the first show to now favourite to win.

Anyway it's clear you don't like Joe so I'm not going to get in a debate about it.

Danyl, Lucie and Jamie have all been consistent and have been pulled up on completely bizarre points

Olly has also been quite consistent and we're seeing an improvement, and Stacey and even Rachel get good feedback each week.

All of those are imo much stronger