[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

What bloody turncoats Liberal Mps are,trying to slur the Tories for child tax cuts when the guy himself commissioned the paper himself,it was done 3 years ago and was not put in place and will not be,good lord,who would want to vote for them,very telling how arsey Clegg got when asked the question about it.arsehole!

its a pathetic attempt and guess who did it, that utter eejit Alexander


nuff said

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I'm trying to imagine us out of Europe and broken away from Scotland... England will be a very lonely eerie place to be.

Rubbish
we are World Traders

Europe Stops that

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by MTVN

You've gotta admit Joey that what's happening in Scotland is absolutely disastrous for Labour though. All the jokes about Scotland having less Tory MPs than they do giant pandas, well its looking like that could be true for Labour now as well! A couple of polls have even had the SNP winning every single seat. The Scottish Labour leader could lose his seat, Douglas Alexander could well lose his seat to a 20 year old politics student! It's remarkable. It's bad for the UK as a whole because I really think that Sturgeon will have good grounds to push for another referendum now and the Yes campaign could very well win it this time.

It is disastrous for Labour and I admit that, there was always going to come a time when what happened to the Conservatives as to Scotland,they won 21 seats there 40 years ago, would come round to Labour once the SNP really got 'authority' in Scotland.

As I have said consistently on here even before the election campaign officially began,I am not that bothered.
had the votes been going to the Lib Dems or the Conservatives or even UKIP,then that would have been far worse for me.

As it is,the SNP have more policies I agree with than I do Labours.
Added to that the 45% who voted for independence, the situation in Scotland is not surprising, the scale is but we won't know the real scale until the votes are cast.

I actually don't think Nicola Sturgeon will get or even seek a referendum again,not in this decade at any rate.
No party in Westminster would support another and it would have to be agreed and got through the UK Parliament again.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Rubbish
we are World Traders

Europe Stops that

We can't even maintain a relationship with our closest EU neighbours or even countries within our own union... the rest of the world have no chance :/

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

We can't even maintain a relationship with our closest EU neighbours or even countries within our own union... the rest of the world have no chance :/

You are a Grim Speaker


I do not agree with your vision

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

its a pathetic attempt and guess who did it, that utter eejit Alexander


nuff said

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Not Only that
it was Front Page of the Daily Mirror
of 2012


IDS wanted it

The PM said NO


It was Debated on the Daily Politics today



So its a old story
Spewed up by the LibDems



Its ideal for Kizzy

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Gingerist...

Nah....more like Twatist.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

You are a Grim Speaker


I do not agree with your vision

I'm a realist.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I'm trying to imagine us out of Europe and broken away from Scotland... England will be a very lonely eerie place to be.

Except for the Commonwealth. And the USA. And the rest of Europe which we will continue to trade with. Sounds okay to me.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Except for the Commonwealth. And the USA. And the rest of Europe which we will continue to trade with. Sounds okay to me.

Are you referring to TTIP?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I'm trying to imagine us out of Europe and broken away from Scotland... England will be a very lonely eerie place to be.

For me, it doesn't even bear thinking about Kizzy.

Had Scotland voted for independence,then I am sure I would have moved there with it then being a far more forward looking Nation,with a govt; that more represented a fairer society as to its policies..
I'd have hated to have remained in England, with the pompous South dictating to the whole of the rest of the UK as usual.

If the UK was to leave the EU however, then I would be off.
The USA would likely give token trade and support to the UK as it wants the UK in the EU and has strongly said that too.
That for me, would be too much of a massive step backwards and I would not want to remain and support such a backward looking Nation were that to come about.
It would lead to,in my view, economic disaster,to trade with the EU we would still have to accept free movement of its citizens and not always get the best deals as to trade either.

In fact,if that happened even my Mum and Dad and a lot of my family would move to another EU country too.

[Jřsh]

The countdown is on,1 week to go until the election!

[Kazanne]

Looks like it's not just a UK problem.
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainme...Ha?ocid=LENDHP.

Maybe that's a good point they make about the tons of food that is wasted.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

What bloody turncoats Liberal Mps are,trying to slur the Tories for child tax cuts when the guy himself commissioned the paper himself,it was done 3 years ago and was not put in place and will not be,good lord,who would want to vote for them,very telling how arsey Clegg got when asked the question about it.arsehole!

I said ages ago they would turn Kazanne, somewhere around 2011.

I was wrong in my thinking they would pull out of the coalition but I still only believe they didn't because their poll ratings have been so desperately low.

I knew come the election,they would want to distance themselves from the bad things they did support and try to take credit for all the succeses.

What sticks in my throat as to them is they are warning of a lurch to the right with the Conservatives or a lurch to the left with Labour.

What utter hypocrisy, they fought the 2010 election on a manifesto that was even more to the left than Labour's.
Then to have a miserable 5 years of shared power,a title for Clegg and some Ministerial positions, they made the biggest lurch to the right, as to policies supported, that any party has ever done virtually overnight.

Also, if it was possible to form a coalition with Labour after May 7th and Miliband agreed.
They would then happily walk through the lobbies supporting over the next 5 years, repeal after repeal of any legislation Labour maybe wanted to repeal,as to what they supported this last 5 years.
Just to have another period of shared time in govt:

While Clegg is their leader,they haven't an ounce of political credibility or integrity left.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I said ages ago they would turn Kazanne, somewhere around 2011.

I was wrong in my thinking they would pull out of the coalition but I still only believe they didn't because their poll ratings have been so desperately low.

I knew come the election,they would want to distance themselves from the bad things they did support and try to take credit for all the succeses.

What sticks in my throat as to them is they are warning of a lurch to the right with the Conservatives or a lurch to the left with Labour.

What utter hypocrisy, they fought the 2010 election on a manifesto that was even more to the left than Labour's.
Then to have a miserable 5 years of shared power,a title for Clegg and some Ministerial positions, they made the biggest lurch to the right, as to policies supported, that any party has ever done virtually overnight.

Also, if it was possible to form a coalition with Labour after May 7th and Miliband agreed.
They would then happily walk through the lobbies supporting over the next 5 years, repeal after repeal of any legislation Labour maybe wanted to repeal,as to what they supported this last 5 years.
Just to have another period of shared time in govt:

While Clegg is their leader,they haven't an ounce of political credibility or integrity left.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I said ages ago they would turn Kazanne, somewhere around 2011.

I was wrong in my thinking they would pull out of the coalition but I still only believe they didn't because their poll ratings have been so desperately low.

I knew come the election,they would want to distance themselves from the bad things they did support and try to take credit for all the succeses.

What sticks in my throat as to them is they are warning of a lurch to the right with the Conservatives or a lurch to the left with Labour.

What utter hypocrisy, they fought the 2010 election on a manifesto that was even more to the left than Labour's.
Then to have a miserable 5 years of shared power,a title for Clegg and some Ministerial positions, they made the biggest lurch to the right, as to policies supported, that any party has ever done virtually overnight.

Also, if it was possible to form a coalition with Labour after May 7th and Miliband agreed.
They would then happily walk through the lobbies supporting over the next 5 years, repeal after repeal of any legislation Labour maybe wanted to repeal,as to what they supported this last 5 years.
Just to have another period of shared time in govt:

While Clegg is their leader,they haven't an ounce of political credibility or integrity left.

wise words Joey.

They look to be willing to swing either way......meal ticket springs to mnd.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Yay, my first clap from Kazanne this whole election so far.

Thank you Smudgie for yours too.

[Kizzy]

Lucky old you

[Kizzy]

Hmmmm first 200,000 ballot papers get robbed and now this...

'More than 480 postal ballot papers have been sent out without the names of the Green and Labour Party candidates.
Labour's Karl Turner and the Green Party's Sarah Walpole were not on the list for the Hull East constituency.
Hull City Council confirmed a printing error had affected a batch of papers and said the mistake affected people who registered to vote after 1 April.
A council spokesman apologised for an "inadvertent mistake" and said the matter was being investigated.'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32514019

[the truth]

dave Cameron was miles ahead of miliband tonight.......we got rid of 20,000 nhs burocrats and replaced them with 9000 doctors and 7000 nurses
we increased the nhs budgets beyond inflation every year as promised..........next we want a 7 day nhs............damnd RIGHT....THE FACT THE NHS has been skeleton staff on weekends has been insane for decades and costs thousands of lives

he was strong on welfare and frankly sounded fair even though its hard to see 12 billion cuts on young people going off job seekers and creating new jobs...MAY PEOPLE USED TO LOSE MONEY IF THEY WORKED A FEW EXTRA HOURS...INSANE MATHS

only 1 in 50 jobs is a zero hours.....66% of the record 2 million jobs are full time

weve created MORE JOBS THAN THE REST OF EUROPE COMBINED IN THE LAST 5 YEARS

labour who run wales has doen the opposite in the nhs spending , in welfare cuts, their unemployment rate has barely shifted, uk under Cameron has halved in 5 years
the unemployment rate is now lower than nearly every European nation

hes not anti European union sadly, but he will give us a referendum and his plan to make people pay national insurance for 4 years to get tax credits etc and NO MORE SENDING CHILD BENEFITS ABROAD ETC

[MTVN]

Funny seeing that interview with the BNP on Daily Politics, you wonder how the hell they ever became big enough to have an MEP, to have Griffin on QT and to get 600,000 votes in the general election. What a joke of a party but quite an entertaining interview.

[Kizzy]

12 billion more welfare cuts cameron?... groovy.
Get ready for more stories like this.

(graphic image)

Spoiler:

'A man has had all of his toes amputated after he became a victim of the bedroom tax and was forced to spend the entire winter in a tent.

Mitchell Keenan, 32, was rushed to hospital six weeks ago and diagnosed with frostbite, after his severely blackened toes were discovered by his family.

He was forced to live in the tent with dad Keith after they were unable to keep up with bedroom tax payments and were evicted from their four-bedroom home in Birch Green,Skelmersdale, Lancashire.

Keith, 62, was also diagnosed with dementia, malnourishment and scabies.'

http://metro.co.uk/2015/04/27/man-lo...-tent-5170189/

[Kizzy]

'Election 2015 poses some profound questions for this country. Ed Miliband has better answers than his rivals, and so deserves a chance to govern.

The campaign is nearly over and it is time to choose. We believe Britain needs a new direction. At home, the economic recovery is only fragile, while social cohesion is threatened by the unequal impact of the financial crisis and the continuing attempt to shrink the postwar state. Abroad, Britain remains traumatised by its wars, and, like our neighbours, is spooked by Vladimir Putin, the rise of jihadist terrorism and by mounting migratory pressures. In parts of Britain, nationalist and religious identities are threatening older solidarities, while privacy and freedom sometimes feel under siege, even as we mark 800 years since Magna Carta. More people in Britain are leading longer, healthier and more satisfying lives than ever before – yet too many of those lives feel stressed in ways to which politics struggles to respond, much less to shape.'

'Mr Miliband has grown in this campaign. He may not have stardust or TV-ready charisma, but those are qualities that can be overvalued. He has resilience and, above all, a strong sense of what is just. Mr Miliband understood early one of the central questions of the age: inequality. While most Tories shrug at that yawning gap between rich and poor, Labour will at least strive to slow and even reverse the three-decade march towards an obscenely unequal society. It is Labour that speaks with more urgency than its rivals on social justice, standing up to predatory capitalism, on investment for growth, on reforming and strengthening the public realm, Britain’s place in Europe and international development – and which has a record in government that it can be more proud of than it sometimes lets on.'

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...n-needs-labour

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Funny seeing that interview with the BNP on Daily Politics, you wonder how the hell they ever became big enough to have an MEP, to have Griffin on QT and to get 600,000 votes in the general election. What a joke of a party but quite an entertaining interview.

Watching this later as I was out when this was on,they surely weren't expecting to be in any leaders debates were they MTVN.