[arista]

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[Cherie]

They had this debate on Your Call on 5live this am, doubt it will go ahead, PMs questions is no place for a young baby to begin with

[Ammi]

..do they have facilities in the building though..?...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Can MPs just eat at one of the many bars around the place?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

They had this debate on Your Call on 5live this am, doubt it will go ahead, PMs questions is no place for a young baby to begin with

Yes debated alot today.

[Jamie89]

Never understood and never will understand what the problem with breast feeding is They're just boobs. What's the issue?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

Never understood and never will understand what the problem with breast feeding is They're just boobs. What's the issue?

Yeah same here and most times when a woman is breast feeding you wouldn't even know she's doing it. I do however agree with Cherie that this probably isn't the place for a baby in general anyway

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

Never understood and never will understand what the problem with breast feeding is They're just boobs. What's the issue?

Some MP's are seedy

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

Some MP's are seedy

...what relevance would that have with a baby being fed, though...

[lostalex]

why are women so obsessed with showing their tits always?

if women are allowed to quirt white stuff from their tits in public, then i should be allowed to squirt white stuff from my dick in public.

yes we know you have tits ladies, now put them away.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...what relevance would that have with a baby being fed, though...

because women can pump and give their babies a bottle in public, that's why.

[Ammi]

..yeah, they can do that as an option as well Alex but if their baby is with them, they don't need to because they can just breastfeed...but still no relevance to the 'seedy' bit..

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..yeah, they can do that as an option as well Alex but if their baby is with them, they don't need to because they can just breastfeed...but still no relevance to the 'seedy' bit..

i think women get used to all the attention they get when they are pregnant, and they use breastfeeding to continue getting more attention and special treatment. it;s like look at me everyone, see i made a baby! treat me special! just because i'm not pregnant anymore does;'t mean i don't still want extra attention! i liked all the attention! please keep giving me more attention!

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i think women get used to all the attention they get when they are pregnant, and they use breastfeeding to continue getting more attention and special treatment. it;s like look at me everyone, see i made a baby! treat me special! just because i'm not pregnant anymore does;'t mean i don't still want extra attention! i liked all the attention! please keep giving me more attention!

...I would think that 'special attention' from breast feeding in public places is around the last thing a female gets ..(in a positive way..)...many people still see it as something that they would rather not see../hence why we have so may stories/discussions on it...a breast feeding female still needs to live a life and go places that may not mean she can always be home for her child's feeding times, so a feed in public is sometimes necessary otherwise there would be a very distressed and screaming child...would that be 'attention' as well, if that happened and was allowed to continue without the child being fed...

[joeysteele]

Rather backward looking from the MPs as to this issue.
This is the 21st century for goodness sake, for ages women were denied the vote,that's gone.
No need now to treat then like second class citizens and second class MPs,just because they are Mothers too, if a baby needs feeding,it needs feeding, and the stuffed shirts who it would make feel uncomfortable, should just get on with it and look away.

Maybe even ask themselves as to having such views what they are doing in Parliament themselves anyway.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Rather backward looking from the MPs as to this issue.
This is the 21st century for goodness sake, for ages women were denied the vote,that's gone.
No need now to treat then like second class citizens and second class MPs,just because they are Mothers too, if a baby needs feeding,it needs feeding, and the stuffed shirts who it would make feel uncomfortable, should just get on with it and look away.

Maybe even ask themselves as to having such views what they are doing in Parliament themselves anyway.

...stuffed with formula bottles to nip out and feed their babies when they need to, maybe...

[Jamie89]

Alex, why are you against it though? Is it just because you think women are doing it to seek attention? I'm genuinely curious because noone can ever seem to articulate what their problem with breastfeeding is. It's always something like 'it's inappropriate' or 'it makes people feel uncomfortable', but again, why?
And yes there are of course alternatives to breastfeeding, but that STILL doesn't exlain what the actual problem with breastfeeding is
I wonder if it's just because people aren't used to it. So maybe if it starts happening more frequently in public places and on TV then people will become used to it and it won't be an issue?
I find it hard to believe that the issue is sexual. Since there is no sex involved

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

Alex, why are you against it though? Is it just because you think women are doing it to seek attention? I'm genuinely curious because noone can ever seem to articulate what their problem with breastfeeding is. It's always something like 'it's inappropriate' or 'it makes people feel uncomfortable', but again, why?
And yes there are of course alternatives to breastfeeding, but that STILL doesn't exlain what the actual problem with breastfeeding is
I wonder if it's just because people aren't used to it. So maybe if it starts happening more frequently in public places and on TV then people will become used to it and it won't be an issue?
I find it hard to believe that the issue is sexual. Since there is no sex involved

Maybe men don't like to see Boobs de-sexualised

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I would think that 'special attention' from breast feeding in public places is around the last thing a female gets ..(in a positive way..)...many people still see it as something that they would rather not see../hence why we have so may stories/discussions on it...a breast feeding female still needs to live a life and go places that may not mean she can always be home for her child's feeding times, so a feed in public is sometimes necessary otherwise there would be a very distressed and screaming child...would that be 'attention' as well, if that happened and was allowed to continue without the child being fed...

yea, and babies poo themselves all the time too, does that mean it's okay for women to change a diaper in public everywhere too? no...

do you think it's okay for a mother to change a babies diaper in the middle of a restaurant?

no baby is gonna starve to death if they have to wait 30 minutes for food, and like i pointed out before, all women pump their milk into bottles, so they can easily carry bottles with them just like they cary a million other things with them in their strollers and bags, and purses. The women that are breast feeding in public are doing it for attention.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

yea, and babies poo themselves all the time too, does that mean it's okay for women to change a diaper in public everywhere too? no...

do you think it's okay for a mother to change a babies diaper in the middle of a restaurant?

no baby is gonna starve to death if they have to wait 30 minutes for food, and like i pointed out before, all women pump their milk into bottles, so they can easily carry bottles with them just like they cary a million other things with them in their strollers and bags, and purses. The women that are breast feeding in public are doing it for attention.

I'm actually surprised at your opinion on this Alex, i thought you were more liberal than that. You think it's better to let a baby cry for half an hour than feed it incase it might embarrass someone?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by lostalex

yea, and babies poo themselves all the time too, does that mean it's okay for women to change a diaper in public everywhere too? no...

do you think it's okay for a mother to change a babies diaper in the middle of a restaurant?

no baby is gonna starve to death if they have to wait 30 minutes for food, and like i pointed out before, all women pump their milk into bottles, so they can easily carry bottles with them just like they cary a million other things with them in their strollers and bags, and purses. The women that are breast feeding in public are doing it for attention.

...well changing a nappy does have some hygiene issues attached to it as well..(and where food is being eaten at restaurant tables..)... so that is something that mother's consider and try to find changing facilities if they can...it also only takes a few minutes to do, so if someone is part of something, they're only gone for a very short time but breast feeding ..(depending on the person and the baby..)..can take a length of time and it's unnecessary for a female to 'separate' themselves fot that length of time, while their baby feeds...sometimes, it may be that they have to but in situations where they don't, why should they feel that they should do that...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

Never understood and never will understand what the problem with breast feeding is They're just boobs. What's the issue?

This debate isn't about breastfeeding per se it about bring babies to work and breastfeeding on the job so to speak

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Rather backward looking from the MPs as to this issue.
This is the 21st century for goodness sake, for ages women were denied the vote,that's gone.
No need now to treat then like second class citizens and second class MPs,just because they are Mothers too, if a baby needs feeding,it needs feeding, and the stuffed shirts who it would make feel uncomfortable, should just get on with it and look away.

Maybe even ask themselves as to having such views what they are doing in Parliament themselves anyway.

I disagree Joey this is about a woman doing her job would MPs accept a Dad bottle feeding an infant while responding to a question posed by the PM, the answer is no, this has nothing to do with being liberal, breastfeed all you like ladies when you are on your own time but during consultation with a constituent or posing a question on their behalf in the house, no!

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I disagree Joey this is about a woman doing her job would MPs accept a Dad bottle feeding an infant while responding to a question posed by the PM, the answer is no, this has nothing to do with being liberal, breastfeed all you like ladies when you are on your own time but during consultation with a constituent or posing a question on their behalf in the house, no!

Bang On Right Cherie

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

Bang On Right Cherie

I can only assume that the women pushing for this have never had an infant as they seem to be under the illusion that the baby is going to lay there quietly for the session waiting patiently for a feed no gurgling, no crying, no filling a nappy