[Livia]

So this isn't about Muslims anymore? Why not? Why, whenever there's a discussion about their appalling treatment of young women and girls, does it always have to turn into a case of whataboutery?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

So this isn't about Muslims anymore? Why not? Why, whenever there's a discussion about their appalling treatment of young women and girls, does it always have to turn into a case of whataboutery?

It never was was it?.... :/

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Niamh.;10072467
[B

]They "get away with it" because they have different laws in different countries.[/B] I don't think anyone her would agree with those laws btw it's just that they're happening in differentcountries that we don't live in so have no control over. Christianity and Catholicism on the otherhand are the majority (by a long way) religions in the UK and Ireland. Catholicism had a massive influence over the laws in Ireland up until very recently, it still has a hold over our state schools and personally I know a hell of a lot more about it than other religions and is really the only one that I have any personal experience or proper knowledge of. Which is the reason that's the only one I'll have any informed opinion on

Yeah that's what I'm saying Niamh

But I still don't know why Christianity & Catholism get dragged into this( yes abuse happens under all kinds of false religion) everyone knows majority of child brides being forced into marriages are in Islamic countries .

But as I've said it's not cultural or anything to do with religion it's child abuse 100% .
A normal decent person wouldn't follow these insane made up rules, only perverted people who get a high from power .

I know there's young girls forced into marriages in America and other places in the name of "Christianity" , usually it's teenagers aged 15 etc so still child abuse . There's alot of weird sects & cults .

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Yeah that's what I'm saying Niamh

But I still don't know why Christianity & Catholism get dragged into this( yes abuse happens under all kinds of false religion) everyone knows majority of child brides being forced into marriages are in Islamic countries .

But as I've said it's not cultural or anything to do with religion it's child abuse 100% .
A normal decent person wouldn't follow these insane made up rules, only perverted people who get a high from power .

I know there's young girls forced into marriages in America and other places in the name of "Christianity" , usually it's teenagers aged 15 etc so still child abuse . There's alot of weird sects & cults .

Yes indeed and I don't think you'll get many who disagree with that

[Maru]

Sex/consent is legalized at younger ages in different countries because a childs maturity does vary significantly by culture. So getting married younger than we are accustomed to does happen outside of doctrinal/traditional confines... I dont agree with kids marrying early in our culture, for obvious reasond, but there are some parts of the US in recent times that ppl may have married early for different reasons... my grandmother decided to get married at the age of 14. Not forced or anything, it was just happened in the culture she grew up. She and my grandfather used to live in the Hill Country high up in the mountains... you wouldn't know it talking to her, that she married so young. She is also quite mature... she taught herself how to drive, did a lot of firsts on her own and was fairly independent... it's just a different mindset, a different culture, post-Depression era thinking where the family looked after each other, and she and her sisters were tight-knit and looked after each other despite moving away and living at different ends of the US later on in life... my grandfather too, was a succesful mechanic running his own shop despite the fact he never learned to read..

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Maru

Sex/consent is legalized at younger ages in different countries because a childs maturity does vary significantly by culture. So getting married younger than we are accustomed to does happen outside of doctrinal/traditional confines... I dont agree with kids marrying early in our culture, for obvious reasond, but there are some parts of the US in recent times that ppl may have married early for different reasons... my grandmother decided to get married at the age of 14. Not forced or anything, it was just happened in the culture she grew up. She and my grandfather used to live in the Hill Country high up in the mountains... you wouldn't know it talking to her, that she married so young. She is also quite mature... she taught herself how to drive, did a lot of firsts on her own and was fairly independent... it's just a different mindset, a different culture, post-Depression era thinking where the family looked after each other, and she and her sisters were tight-knit and looked after each other despite moving away and living at different ends of the US later on in life... my grandfather too, was a succesful mechanic running his own shop despite the fact he never learned to read..

Sorry I don't buy that at all, in this country children matured quicker as they were expected to work and/or run the home, we legislated against that a century ago.

Just because some cultures still exploit young people does not make it right, physically bodies can be unable to take the outcome of marriage at a young age, not to be too graphic it leads to severe complications and injury.

My heart goes out to your grandmother who sounds a wonderful woman, however I can't condone what you suggest was her decision yes she lived a good life however that was in spite of the start she had, not because of it.

I should like to ask her and other child brides if they had the choice then to wait as we do now would they?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Sorry I don't buy that at all, in this country children matured quicker as they were expected to work and/or run the home, we legislated against that a century ago.

Just because some cultures still exploit young people does not make it right, physically bodies can be unable to take the outcome of marriage at a young age, not to be too graphic it leads to severe complications and injury.

My heart goes out to your grandmother who sounds a wonderful woman, however I can't condone what you suggest was her decision yes she lived a good life however that was in spite of the start she had, not because of it.

I should like to ask her and other child brides if they had the choice then to wait as we do now would they?

That's the twisted thing about it all ,these girls bodies HAVEN'T developed propely , otherwise so many wouldn't be dying in child birth after perverts have used them .

Girls as young as 9 !!! Are being exploited in these places .