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jaxie · 08-08-2018, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

mmm religion trying to put women back in their places yet again, history repeats itself over and over and over

And think about it, the lady covered up at the school gates who can't share a friendly smile or make friends, she can't integrate into the country she is living in. So what is her life? Oppression in her husband or father's home.

I'm quite proud that we are actually discussing it without all the snide comment brigade charging in to put us in our place.

Alf · 08-08-2018, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshBB

Just goes to show what a terrible cretin he is. Regardless of a politician's view on burkhas, to insult a piece of religious clothing in such a way is extremely insensitive and prejudiced. I expect the Tories will find themselves struggling to pick up votes from Muslims if he isn't sacked..

What about a piece of non religious clothing? I've decided to take offence by anyone who insults that. Infact why don't we all sew our mouths up? problem solved.

bots · 08-08-2018, 06:04 PM

Boris is only talking about clothing here, not the religion. People criticise what others choose to wear all the time.

Northern Monkey · 08-08-2018, 06:41 PM

Meh,Boris is behind.I used the post box analogy on the 2nd of August on TIBB

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=344150

Alf · 08-08-2018, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Meh,Boris is behind.I used the post box analogy on the 2nd of August on TIBB

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=344150

Are you going to apologise to the snowflakes?

Maru · 08-08-2018, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Meh,Boris is behind.I used the post box analogy on the 2nd of August on TIBB

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=344150

Oh, Boris is a SD reader. Explains everything.

Spoiler:

Oliver_W · 08-08-2018, 07:07 PM

I wonder if people would be choking on their dummies if he'd have said kippah look like frisbees?

Northern Monkey · 08-08-2018, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf

Are you going to apologise to the snowflakes?

Nah.Priests frocks,Jews Kippah’s and Dog Collars have been up for ridicule in free countries for ever.What makes the ninja costume any different?

Oliver_W · 08-08-2018, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Nah.Priests frocks,Jews Kippah’s and Dog Collars have been up for ridicule in free countries for ever.What makes the ninja costume any different?

Because it's racist!!!11one

Kazanne · 08-08-2018, 08:26 PM

Load of fuss about nothing again

JoshBB · 08-08-2018, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

Load of fuss about nothing again

He's a member of the government, representing his constituents and country, making offensive remarks about a piece of religious clothing in an effort to appeal to the far-right.

Personally, I think it warrants fuss.

Oliver_W · 08-08-2018, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshBB

He's a member of the government, representing his constituents and country, making offensive remarks about a piece of religious clothing in an effort to appeal to the far-right.

Personally, I think it warrants fuss.

Was he trying to appeal to the "far right" when he defended women's right to wear such clothing?

JoshBB · 08-08-2018, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Was he trying to appeal to the "far right" when he defended women's right to wear such clothing?

No, probably not. But that doesn't change the fact that what he said was offensive and an attempt to pander to Islamophobia rather than challenge it

Kazanne · 08-08-2018, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshBB

He's a member of the government, representing his constituents and country, making offensive remarks about a piece of religious clothing in an effort to appeal to the far-right.

Personally, I think it warrants fuss.

Oh behave he is in favour of them wearing it,he just said it looks like a letterbox and it does.

JoshBB · 08-08-2018, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

Oh behave he is in favour of them wearing it,he just said it looks like a letterbox and it does.

Imagine being a muslim and Bojo is your MP though. it creates a massive disconnect and a feeling, once again, that they are unrepresented and marginalised.

Kazanne · 08-08-2018, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshBB

No, probably not. But that doesn't change the fact that what he said was offensive and an attempt to pander to Islamophobia rather than challenge it

Only because some people jump on it as so,which makes things worse,so for me it's too much fuss about the way he described it,I think if most people were asked what it looked like ,they would also concur.

JoshBB · 08-08-2018, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

Only because some people jump on it as so,which makes things worse,so for me it's too much fuss about the way he described it,I think if most people were asked what it looked like ,they would also concur.

People jump on it because it's plain offensive. They're right to do so. To contextualise, as muslim-hate is apparently excusable in our society atm, would you defend Boris if he had made mocking remarks about a Jew's skullcap? Or a nun's headdress?

& that isn't to strawman you. I just struggle to see why you would want to defend this Boris outburst

Kazanne · 08-08-2018, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshBB

Imagine being a muslim and Bojo is your MP though. it creates a massive disconnect and a feeling, once again, that they are unrepresented and marginalised.

People kicking up a fuss draws attention to something that really isn't a problem for most,personally ,I'de ban them.If we go to their country we are asked to cover up and most people do,otherwise they are imprisoned or even worse !! so what is wrong with us not wanting these worn on our streets.

Kazanne · 08-08-2018, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshBB

People jump on it because it's plain offensive. They're right to do so. To contextualise, as muslim-hate is apparently excusable in our society atm, would you defend Boris if he had made mocking remarks about a Jew's skullcap? Or a nun's headdress?

& that isn't to strawman you. I just struggle to see why you would want to defend this Boris outburst

A scull cap does not cover the face and neither does a nuns headdress

JoshBB · 08-08-2018, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

A scull cap does not cover the face and neither does a nuns headdress

That's not the question. And making fun of a burkha adds nothing to the debate but prejudice.

So, I'll ask again. Would it be different?

Alf · 08-08-2018, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshBB

Imagine being a muslim and Bojo is your MP though. it creates a massive disconnect and a feeling, once again, that they are unrepresented and marginalised.

My MP was John Prescott for most of my life, share a thought for me.