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This is also really interesting to read no wonder people doubt the documentary.

https://talunzeitoun.com/2019/01/30/...kpRfyg_kR7X6zA
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This is also really interesting to read no wonder people doubt the documentary.

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This is also really interesting to read no wonder people doubt the documentary.

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Google his name Kaz, on google picture search...ignore the photo shopped MJ one and concentrate on the fashon shoot ones (cause that's all there is) tell me the ain't all taken in one day...



Your links fake, probably set up by Jermaines frantic fingers.....looking for something to do rather than count Mj's dollars.
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Google his name Kaz, on google picture search...ignore the photo shopped MJ one and concentrate on the fashon shoot ones (cause that's all there is) tell me the ain't all taken in one day...
There are in fact two different pictures of him "with Michael" and both of them are photoshopped. Badly.

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There are in fact two different pictures of him "with Michael" and both of them are photoshopped. Badly.
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Google his name Kaz, on google picture search...ignore the photo shopped MJ one and concentrate on the fashon shoot ones (cause that's all there is) tell me the ain't all taken in one day...



Your links fake, probably set up by Jermaines frantic fingers.....looking for something to do rather than count Mj's dollars.
So if you think it's fake he goes into a lot of detail which proves it can be done , I will have a look properly tomorrow watching Bachelor UK now
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So if you think it's fake he goes into a lot of detail which proves it can be done , I will have a look properly tomorrow watching Bachelor UK now
Yeah a lot of details for a fake story,unless he's a fantasist like wade & James.

If this guy said Michael abused him and wrote war & peace on his "horrific ordeal" , I bet then people would believe it and not call it fake or Photoshop .
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So if you think it's fake he goes into a lot of detail which proves it can be done , I will have a look properly tomorrow watching Bachelor UK now
OK, just dont come back thinking I will shout at you like some people.
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Wait i'm confused why is this Talun's story being discredited just because it's a positive one? . I bet if he was saying MJ abused him then it's instantly believed .

Interesting how 2 known liars have hoodwinked alot of people despite all the lies and inconsistencies .
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Wait i'm confused why is this Talun's story being discredited just because it's a positive one? . I bet if he was saying MJ abused him then it's instantly believed .

Interesting how 2 known liars have hoodwinked alot of people despite all the lies and inconsistencies .
I haven't read enough about it to discredit him but the picture is photoshopped. I mean, that's not a "theory" it just... is... you can see that it is, surely?
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I found this Parmy
https://www.mjworld.net/news/2019/01...fends-michael/

His name is Talun,I do a lot of photoshopping myself If that first pic is a photoshop it's really well done the second one does seem a little different,but could be down to the skin colours being so different but I cant be sure on this one. but his story is seems very well detailed and I am sure if untrue someone would have come out of the woodwork.This is what he said about that pic.
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There could be thousands and thousands of 'he didn't touch me' stories and they still would not discount the ones who say he did, thats not quite how it works. Many kids who came into contact with Saville could say he never touched them, what would that prove? Genuinely not seeing it, though its not me desperate to prove he is innocent. Not invested in it either way tbh, but it does seem, to me, that its likely he was a nonce...and if not at the very least he behaved inappropriately with many children

That Talun Zeitoun is gorgeous...but yeah, the photos of him with Michael really do look photoshopped, and not photoshopped well either.

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But these two have said on the trial that nothing happened. Now they both changed their minds? Seems fishy to me.
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There could be thousands and thousands of 'he didn't touch me' stories and they still would not discount the ones who say he did, thats not quite how it works. Many kids who came into contact with Saville could say he never touched them, what would that prove? Genuinely not seeing it, though its not me desperate to prove he is innocent. Not invested in it either way tbh, but it does seem, to me, that its likely he was a nonce...and if not at the very least he behaved inappropriately with many children

That Talun Zeitoun is gorgeous...but yeah, the photos of him with Michael really do look photoshopped, and not photoshopped well either.
Well he did give the name of the photographer,sure he would have denied this pic
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But these two have said on the trial that nothing happened. Now they both changed their minds? Seems fishy to me.
Would you say it's more or less fishy than a grown man sharing his bed with random 7-11 year olds he befriends?
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He was cleared in court. That's good enough for me. Police followed him for years and found no evidence whatsoever. I.need some evidence before I believe any of it.
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Well he did give the name of the photographer,sure he would have denied this pic
Maybe, no judging on the photoshop thing really, just really does look very photoshopped to me Makes no odds really if it is or isn't.
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Yes thats not right, but it doesn't mean he was guilty.
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In my view, at the very least it makes him guilty of extremely inappropriate behaviour around children (namely young boys of a certain age)
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Wait i'm confused why is this Talun's story being discredited just because it's a positive one? . I bet if he was saying MJ abused him then it's instantly believed .

Interesting how 2 known liars have hoodwinked alot of people despite all the lies and inconsistencies .
You have instantly believed it because you believe MJ to be innocent though - its no different to people disbelieving it because they believe his guilt

Quite possibly is true his account, if his mum was on Jackson's payroll, he will have spent time with him. If it is true, his mum obviously spent a lot of time in Jackson's inner circle and was close to him, makes sense that if he was an abuser he wouldn't have abused this boy - he liked to keep the parents more at arms length rather than have them working closely with him.
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Also to be clear, I am not discrediting his story at all. I just don't think stories coming out of kids he did not touch, have an bearing on those who say he did touch them Pedos don't tend to abuse every kid they come into contact with. Thought that was well known, but seemingly not.
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