[Vicky.]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ocial-facebook

Inmates have been given the keys to their own cells at HMP Berwyn in Wrexham
Guards must knock first and inmates come and go from their cells as they please
Prison blocks are now called ‘communities’ and the prisoners even get laptops
The £250million prison has even renamed cells as 'rooms' and prisoners as 'men'

Erm, does this not kind of negate the 'punishment' side of prisons?!

Its really sounding like the better choice, for many many people. I swear if I was homeless, I would just commit endless crimes to get sent somewhere like this rather than sleeping on the streets hungry. Hell, these prisoners probably have a better life than a lot of workers today..

[GoldHeart]

So now that's a bed to sleep on , tv , internet , being fed , visitors , education, and now the keys to their own rooms how sweet like it's an apartment complex with guards walking by . You wouldn't think they were locked up for crimes you'd think it was a summer camp.

I'm sure there was even talk of prisoners being allowed to vote , but don't think that was granted .

[Tony Montana]

What the **** is going on in this world?

[Tom4784]

Seems like an article aimed at riling people with justice hardons tbh.

There's too many purposely unanswered questions in the article which is telling that the story is less sensational than it sees.

It's a low risk prison, likely for people who are either vulnerable or are guilty of non-violent crimes who can be rehabilitated. I don't really have a problem with it as I do agree with the Scandinavian philosophy presented in the article, it doesn't matter if you have a laptop in your room or if people knock. You've still ****ed your life up, you're still a prisoner and you've still got to rebuild afterwards.

[Vicky.]

My justice hardon is alive and kicking of course!

Basically, if this is being done those in that prison should just be released, and on probation or something, seems utterly pointless.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

My justice hardon is live and kicking of course!

Basicallt, if this is being done those in that prison should just be released, and on prbation or something, seems utterly pointless.

Yes if they are that low risk, they could be doing community service wearing a tag rather than costing the country to keep them?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Yes if they are that low risk, they could be doing community service wearing a tag rather than costing the country to keep them?

Indeed.

[Denver]

They get treated better then people busting their ass working every hour to man just to survive

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Seems like an article aimed at riling people with justice hardons tbh.

There's too many purposely unanswered questions in the article which is telling that the story is less sensational than it sees.

It's a low risk prison, likely for people who are either vulnerable or are guilty of non-violent crimes who can be rehabilitated. I don't really have a problem with it as I do agree with the Scandinavian philosophy presented in the article, it doesn't matter if you have a laptop in your room or if people knock. You've still ****ed your life up, you're still a prisoner and you've still got to rebuild afterwards.

Yes that's why.

[AnnieK]

Open prisons have been similar to this for years, inmates don't get "locked down" as such and have weekend home visits to adjust to being back into regular society.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Adam.

They get treated better then people busting their ass working every hour to man just to survive

Considering they are imprisoned? Probably not.

[Oliver_W]

Maybe for non-violent non-sexual "white collar" crimes this sort of thing is okay, and like Dezzy said a spell in prison will be a stain on their CV forever and they'll still need to rebuild their lives. Also, having slightly nicer cells won't make the prison gang culture and whatnot evaporate

[Crimson Dynamo]

they should be out in work gangs cleaning up rivers, lades and ponds. there is no excuse for these lazy swines not to be worked 12 hours a day 7 days a week to help the community

[Twosugars]

The same conditions to be demanded in the tibb jail?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

The same conditions to be demanded in the tibb jail?

there is a slight issue with the actions of the judiciary to sort out first

its more pressing, shall we say?

[Beso]

It will probably be the paedophiles and rapists.

[LaLaLand]

This is my town's prison, and it's ****ing ridiculous.

No end of people who I know got jobs there as staff/guards and most if not all have quit because they're restricted in everything they do, even when it comes to something like restraining violent inmates. They all went on strike and eventually left because it's so daft and the prisoners were running riot and abusing these "rules".

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

they should be out in work gangs cleaning up rivers, lades and ponds. there is no excuse for these lazy swines not to be worked 12 hours a day 7 days a week to help the community

that's slavery.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

they should be out in work gangs cleaning up rivers, lades and ponds. there is no excuse for these lazy swines not to be worked 12 hours a day 7 days a week to help the community

That would take paid work away from non-criminals though.

[Withano]

Probably a Cat D prison tbf

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Jonnii

This is my town's prison, and it's ****ing ridiculous.

No end of people who I know got jobs there as staff/guards and most if not all have quit because they're restricted in everything they do, even when it comes to something like restraining violent inmates. They all went on strike and eventually left because it's so daft and the prisoners were running riot and abusing these "rules".

I live relatively close too and was going to post the same.

The prison is now essentially run like a hotel and the guards are the staff.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

there is a slight issue with the actions of the judiciary to sort out first

its more pressing, shall we say?

you'd say that wouldn't you

be a man, if you do the crime accept the punishment

[Livia]

They're treated better than our own elderly in care. And the lucky of us will be elderly one day. Prisoners should be working for the good of society.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Livia

They're treated better than our own elderly in care. And the lucky of us will be elderly one day. Prisoners should be working for the good of society.

Surely the smart answer to that is to look into improving the quality of care and options for older people rather than seeking to lower the quality of life for prisoners for no other reason than a self righteous sense of satisfaction.

Making life worse for prisoners does nothing for the situation of elderly people.

[armand.kay]

Why are people so desperate for prisoners to be treated like cattle?