[user104658]

Originally Posted by Smithy

People who go west die, only one person has ever come back and they were insane

How does anyone know they die if they never come back though? Like maybe it's just really awesome there and they're sipping cocktails on a beach like "Wow Westeros was such a crap hole lol"

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Sullen Girl

Why is ghost missing an ear

It got eaten by wights in Ep3.

[user104658]

It would have been pretty epic if Drogon had TRIED to burn Jon first but he was fireproof like Dany (and *then* Drogon melting the throne and flying off with Dany).

But they've mentioned before that dragons might even be more intelligent than humans, so it sort of makes sense that he destroyed the throne, as he knew what it represented. Maybe he didn't "agree with" Dany burning the city in the first place (but would always follow her command).

[Smithy]

He could have just torn Jon to shreds with his teeth if his fire didn’t work

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Why would the unsullied hang around for a year? Lol

Cause they had stuff to sort out, bringing justice to Dany's killer for one, getting a fleet to take em to Naath too

[Smithy]

I think it’s more likely the ****ty writers just had half the city completely unscathed and didn’t think about Danys rampage for that scene

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Smithy

I think it’s more likely the ****ty writers just had half the city completely unscathed and didn’t think about Danys rampage for that scene

Except visual stuff is down to the director not the writers

[Smithy]

The writers directed this episode

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Smithy

</3

omg :'(

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Smithy

The writers directed this episode

Touche

I still think its set a year or so later, the Unsullied techincally held King's Landing, and those sorts of issues cant be solved in a matter of months

[Smithy]

'The Iron Throne' was watched by 13.6 million for its premiere on HBO on Sunday (May 19) at 9pm on ET — and that number rises to the jaw-dropping 19.3 million when initial repeats and streaming are added.

The previous record was set just one week earlier, when the Battle for King's Landing in 'The Bells' was watched by 12.5 million viewers live. That figure rose to 18.4 million viewers with streaming and repeats.

Humongous ratings

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Smithy

People who go west die, only one person has ever come back and they were insane

Poor Niamh, Arya lost too

No one returns from West of Westros

A Girl is no one


hhhmmm regarding the Finale , I needed to take the night to digest it all and decide if I was happy with it or not.

So yeah I think the end was good, I was happy with the conclusion of the story and where everyone ended up, even Bran on the throne felt right, eventhough he was pretty much a non kind of a character, he's a good figure head and you know that his amazing council will be running the place.

Sansa on the throne in Winterfell is right too and Jon going off with the Wildlings is where he's always supposed to be, it seemed like that was the only place he ever seemed happy and really at home.

It would have been hard to place Arya anywhere that wouldn't have lessened her character and journey so I'm good with her heading off on adventures (spin off please ) and tbh her killing the NK was so perfect, her having no major big moments afterwards is fine with me.

So I haven't mentioned the Dany part yet, I'm not sure what to say about it, I think that her storyline was good but not how it was executed at all, i think that's the way t would have and should have gone but her journey both into full on mad Queen came from no where or not enough atleast and also, the thing with her and Jon, how into eachother they are didn't feel believable, far too rushed for you to believe that Jon would be that stupid about her and that she wouldn't have killed him or atleast been more wary of him

TL: DR :

I was happy with the story conclusion in general but the execution of it in the TV Show wasn't quite there. Fingers crossed that GRRM finishes the books so we can get the proper believable version.

[Strictly Jake]

Yeah niamh I agree with all you have said. I wasn't keen at all on the ending on the first watch of it but giving it a bit more thought I do think it ended in the correct way its just this season has felt rushed compared to all the other seasons.

There should have been at least another season. Battle of winterfell should have been at the end of the last season. Then this season should have focused on dany progressively getting more and more mad it would have then made sense. I still am gutted about her character as I have adored her throughout. Also cersei was unrelevant in this season that has also left a sour taste in my mouth.

Had there been better progression with dany and a lot more of cersei shown and maybe a bit more dany vs cersei and heck a bit of faceless ayra for good value I would have enjoyed the ending more.

Also I do feel there should have been just one more episode between the bells and the final. The first half of the final episode with dany having the power was great it would have been good to see that in a stand alone episode and ending with Jon killing her and the stuff with Drogo. Also it should have shown what the north's reaction was, what sansa and brianne were doing etc rather than them all just being in one place in the final. The final episode should have started with tyrion being in prison and the rest of that episode onwards as the final. Maybe with a bit of tension somewhere as I feel that's where the episode fell flat in the second half

Then it would have felt right. So a couple of episodes before the bells and one episode after it would have worked really well

[bots]

yeah, i think they should have shown Dany's progression more, but she was full on mad when she gave her last speech to the masses so she had to go.

I really only felt episode 4 was not up to scratch .... that should have taken much longer and could have highlighted Dany hitting rock bottom at the loss of a dragon and her best friend. The opportunity would have been there if the episode was not such an abysmal mess

[Niamh.]

Interestingly enough seeing the final season and the ending has made me want the books more when I thought I wouldn't go back and read them after the Show passed them out. I really want to know how each character really properly got to the places they were

[The Slim Reaper]

[The Slim Reaper]

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

yeah, i think they should have shown Dany's progression more, but she was full on mad when she gave her last speech to the masses so she had to go.

I really only felt episode 4 was not up to scratch .... that should have taken much longer and could have highlighted Dany hitting rock bottom at the loss of a dragon and her best friend. The opportunity would have been there if the episode was not such an abysmal mess

If losing her husband and child in Season 1 didn't drive her to noticeable madness and she reacted to every betrayal and loss since without a hint of madness then I can't really buy Jorah and Rhaegal's deaths driving her over the edge so much, especially considering she locked up her dragons for a long ass time when Drogon killed a child so I can't buy her roasting children en mass without a hint of remorse.

I think the TV show version of the character wasn't developed in a way in that madness made sense for her arc. I think the mad queen twist would have worked really well if they put the time in to develop it properly and I liked the justifications in this episode for it but the problem is that they mishandled Dany's character completely, they took her down one path and that path changed directions rapidly, not because of character development but to serve the plot.

I'm going to start reading the books once the series is finished, I reckon the Mad Queen twist will make much more sense within them.

[Smithy]

“Once the series is finished”

Oh my sweet summer child

[Smithy]

Also it would have been helpful if they had told Emilia at the very beginning she was going to go bad, she could have at least layered it into her performance, a bit like Alan rickman/snape when he was told beforehand how it ended

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Also it would have been helpful if they had told Emilia at the very beginning she was going to go bad, she could have at least layered it into her performance, a bit like Alan rickman/snape when he was told beforehand how it ended

Absolutely, you would think that was a vital piece of information for her to make it believable. It seems like they didn't want her to do that though because it wouldn't have been enough of a shock but they didn't consider that people need to find it believable and not just shocking, some shocks are good, unbelievable character uturns are not

[Niamh.]

But seriously can we have an Arya spin off? West of Westros?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

But seriously can we have an Arya spin off? West of Westros?

Yes filmed in a Cheaper nation.

[Smithy]

Arya spin off would be boring imo

Now Dany being resurrected in Mereen and flying to old Valryia to raise a new army of a dragons is a spin off I’d watch

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Interestingly enough seeing the final season and the ending has made me want the books more when I thought I wouldn't go back and read them after the Show passed them out. I really want to know how each character really properly got to the places they were

The book ending has to be loads different surely, with all the focus on characters that didn't even make the show..