[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...he said that Europe was losing its culture because of immigration...but immigration is what forges so much of the world and what moulds countries and what makes them what they are and what we love about them...we would live in ignorance if we lived in isolation and insulation...and then we regress...

Exactly

[Livia]

Do we think it's a coincidence that in the countries where people have been admitted en masse, without any consultation with the public, the far Right are on the rise. And I don't mean just refugees from Africa and the Middle East, I mean the massive move west of millions of people from eastern Europe who disseminated all over western Europe after the massive and quick expansion of the EU in 2004.

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

but they're the minority.

source?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Livia

Do we think it's a coincidence that in the countries where people have been admitted en masse, without any consultation with the public, the far Right are on the rise. And I don't mean just refugees from Africa and the Middle East, I mean the massive move west of millions of people from eastern Europe who disseminated all over western Europe after the massive and quick expansion of the EU in 2004.

I see what you mean - islamic culture is completely contrary to our own, and admitting millions of people from said culture isn't the best idea. Unfortunately, the only voices in politics talking about this are far right, so this gives them support from otherwise moderate people.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Do we think it's a coincidence that in the countries where people have been admitted en masse, without any consultation with the public, the far Right are on the rise. And I don't mean just refugees from Africa and the Middle East, I mean the massive move west of millions of people from eastern Europe who disseminated all over western Europe after the massive and quick expansion of the EU in 2004.

I don't think the right is on the rise here, that I've noticed anyway, Polish are the highest non Irish nationality here and they slotted in very easily

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I see what you mean - islamic culture is completely contrary to our own, and admitting millions of people from said culture isn't the best idea. Unfortunately, the only voices in politics talking about this are far right, so this gives them support from otherwise moderate people.

Yes, that's been my feeling all along. Any time there's any kind of discussion about immigrants, anyone who doesn't want an open door policy is a bigot and a racist, and that's an end to it. No discussion, working class people's areas are transformed, businesses close, pubs shut, mosques open and suddenly you're a stranger in your own land. And if you haven't experienced that, well... you have no idea.

I'm not against immigration and I'm certainly not against letting in genuine refugees... but they need to be less condensed. People say, well, obviously they're going to want to live with their own people. And that's fine. Unless they're white English.... and then it's racist.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't think the right is on the rise here, that I've noticed anyway, Polish are the highest non Irish nationality here and they slotted in very easily

There are loads of Poles in my area and they're really hard working. Also, they tend to make friends in the wider community as well as in their own.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

There are loads of Poles in my area and they're really hard working. Also, they tend to make friends in the wider community as well as in their own.

Yes and I think that really makes a difference actually, the fact that they do integrate with the locals a lot.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes and I think that really makes a difference actually, the fact that they do integrate with the locals a lot.

I think it makes a massive difference too.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Livia

They know what they're talking about

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Livia

There are loads of Poles in my area and they're really hard working. Also, they tend to make friends in the wider community as well as in their own.

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes and I think that really makes a difference actually, the fact that they do integrate with the locals a lot.

On a personal level, it's very nice tor me to read these comments.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Do we think it's a coincidence that in the countries where people have been admitted en masse, without any consultation with the public, the far Right are on the rise. And I don't mean just refugees from Africa and the Middle East, I mean the massive move west of millions of people from eastern Europe who disseminated all over western Europe after the massive and quick expansion of the EU in 2004.

So you have an issue with eastern Europeans now? I'm sure you said your decended from Transylvanians.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Do we think it's a coincidence that in the countries where people have been admitted en masse, without any consultation with the public, the far Right are on the rise. And I don't mean just refugees from Africa and the Middle East, I mean the massive move west of millions of people from eastern Europe who disseminated all over western Europe after the massive and quick expansion of the EU in 2004.

100% Whats causing it, people are sick and tired of it and esp when a working man sees what they get for free that he has to work overtime for

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

On a personal level, it's very nice tor me to read these comments.

Are you Polish TS?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

There are loads of Poles in my area and they're really hard working. Also, they tend to make friends in the wider community as well as in their own.

A lot of Poles work with my husband ,he says they are really hard workers and all of them get on with the English workers, we have 2 families of Poles near us, they are constantly cleaning, gardening and also say good morning or good afternoon ,I have no problem with them at all

[Oliver_W]

Some Poles are fairly regular in my mum's bookies, and they're basically more British than half my mates haha - they run a business (builders), they're part of the community, they even play bloody cricket! There are two or three nuclear families who are all one family (if that makes sense), and you can tell which houses are theirs because they're the nicest and best kept on their streets

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Are you Polish TS?

Oh no dont ask that... next thing it'll be you don't know this your not British... you can't understand that your not British.
Unless your at least 3rd generation not British you don't know anything!

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Are you Polish TS?

Half Polish and brought up there, only moved here in my early twenties.

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Oh no dont ask that... next thing it'll be you don't know this your not British... you can't understand that your not British.
Unless your at least 3rd generation not British you don't know anything!

True
Still have a bit of an accent and get treated as a foreigner a lot which usually is not pleasant.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Half Polish and brought up there, only moved here in my early twenties.


True
Still have a bit of an accent and get treated as a foreigner a lot which usually is not pleasant.

ah I didn't know that

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Oh no dont ask that... next thing it'll be you don't know this your not British... you can't understand that your not British.
Unless your at least 3rd generation not British you don't know anything!

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

ah I didn't know that

I took brexit very personally. Still haven't got over it really.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

I took brexit very personally. Still haven't got over it really.

I can imagine

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

I took brexit very personally. Still haven't got over it really.

Aw ts please don't, see.. this is how brexit has impacted on our European cousins, its revolting how its fractured further our collective relationship.
Mind you to me being English we've always had an island mentality, a fear of forigners that was only slightly improved by the invention of the package holiday

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

A lot of Poles work with my husband ,he says they are really hard workers and all of them get on with the English workers, we have 2 families of Poles near us, they are constantly cleaning, gardening and also say good morning or good afternoon ,I have no problem with them at all

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Some Poles are fairly regular in my mum's bookies, and they're basically more British than half my mates haha - they run a business (builders), they're part of the community, they even play bloody cricket! There are two or three nuclear families who are all one family (if that makes sense), and you can tell which houses are theirs because they're the nicest and best kept on their streets

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

I took brexit very personally. Still haven't got over it really.

.......sadly there are many others who would feel that as well...I didn’t know your heritage, there’s no reason why I should have known though...