[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well Mark Field did get a suspension and lose his post in government.
So some comeback for his highly inappropriate actions.

It's not a good sign this PM has not done more.

However the very fortunate thing for Mark Field really is that the climate campaigner chose not to involve the police.

Otherwise he could, and should have, for me anyway, been in deeper trouble and likely prosecuted too.

She has a while to get a whiplash claim in . I hope she does

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well Mark Field did get a suspension and lose his post in government.
So some comeback for his highly inappropriate actions.

It's not a good sign this PM has not done more.

However the very fortunate thing for Mark Field really is that the climate campaigner chose not to involve the police.

Otherwise he could, and should have, for me anyway, been in deeper trouble and likely prosecuted too.

it was common sense and of course he will be back asap


the woman hopefully learned a hard lesson about her disgusting behaviour

well done to our PM for sorting this, a good sign

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

She has a while to get a whiplash claim in . I hope she does

I hoped she'd involve the police at the time Kizzy.

It was well over the top by him, he's very fortunate.

[Kizzy]

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[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

https://youtu.be/7yRTAnJHUVA

Youtube video

I love Sir Stevo

[Kizzy]

Thanks Girth

[arista]

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[arista]

[bots]

Boris is playing a dangerous game with the UK economy

[Crimson Dynamo]

prescription glasses from Ł5

wow

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Boris is playing a dangerous game with the UK economy

He's likely playing a dangerous game with the whole UK.
I think, with his Cabinet's clear determination of no deal after 31st October.
His more mixed,.at least on the surface, of hoping for a deal rather than no deal, is creating more uncertainty than before.

I can't see where this is all going to end up.

Scotland is overall going to be furious and it will be hard for a minority government to deny or ignore calls for another independence vote.

The DUP should keep their noses well out of that one too as to Scotland.

Welsh farmers are it seems likely to be up in arms at a no deal prospect.

N Ireland, who knows, why voters there support the, in my opinion, UN-Democratic Unionists is near unbelievable.

Then Parliament too.
The divisions hardening, what chaos may yet still loom there.
Although I cannot see Rees-Mogg winning battles with speaker Bercow.

The economy is bound to take a big hit in all that.

His blustering is only making things worse.
He is starting to look almost like a prisoner PM of the hard-line cabinet, HE has put in place.

All any polling reveals, and I have not a scrap of faith in the polls.
Indicate really in all of them, another hung Parliament.

In a no deal realised scenario result.
I think he'd gain some brexit votes back.
I know many who voted brexit though, who would vote to leave again and again, however do not support no deal in any shape or form.

Then the remain vote would probably harden even more.
Sadly many who voted to leave, are no longer with us due to age taking its toll, this last 3 years.
Couple that with those who were 15 to 17 in 2016.
Who more lean to renain and who will now be able to vote, with those numbers rising into next year too.

Then a general election may be of no help to him, and may even see him out.

We seem as if we are under Johnson, heading into a worse period than under Theresa May.
I wish and hoped the Conservative party would have put in place a National healing and more compromising leader.
Then it chose to inflict this one on the UK.
Divisions and tensions likely being made worse and the chance to heal the UK blown very sadly away.

I don't think any Party has a leader who can now pull the whole UK together at present.
Certainly not Johnson.
At this time of dividing ourselves from an association we've had membership of for 40+ years.
One of the main qualities of a leader needed in that, was someone who could and should have put the bringing together of the 4 Nations making up the UK the total main priority.
We have the opposite unbelievably.

Really worrying and dangerous.

[arista]

Today
Johnson is going to Wales.

[chuff me dizzy]

I truly hope Scotland DO get a new vote to leave us ,and all i would say is good riddance ,they would be in a right mess in no time and come crawling back to us

[bots]

If Scotland get the opportunity to vote for independence, and they will, because the people cannot be ignored, they will vote for independence if Boris is still at the helm

[Livia]

Have a referendum now. They don't want to be governed by London but they're perfectly find with a bunch of unelected people in Brussels calling the shots.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

prescription glasses from Ł5

wow

LOL.... morning Trumpet.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Livia

Have a referendum now. They don't want to be governed by London but they're perfectly find with a bunch of unelected people in Brussels calling the shots.

Scotland didn't vote to leave the EU .... and to be quite frank Livia, your attitude toward Scottish issues is exactly the reason why Scotland has problems with being governed from westminster

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Scotland didn't vote to leave the EU .... and to be quite frank Livia, your attitude toward Scottish issues is exactly the reason why Scotland has problems with being governed from westminster

Yeah, why get governed by a parliament you have a vote in and be part of what's basically the same country (come on, admit it), when you can be ruled by people you have no vote for, implementing rules from afar.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I truly hope Scotland DO get a new vote to leave us ,and all i would say is good riddance ,they would be in a right mess in no time and come crawling back to us

And how does that attitude help in healing and keeping together the UK.

Are some so desperate for brexit, really happy to not just end a 40+ year membership of the EU but also equally happy to end over 300 years of a union.
Which iif it was broken meant we cannot then even call ourselves the United Kingdom.
What a way forward that is.
I think not.

No wonder the Scots have so much distrust of most in Westminster.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

And how does that attitude help in healing and keeping together the UK.

Are some so desperate for brexit, really happy to not just end a 40+ year membership of the EU but also equally happy to end over 300 years of a union.
Which iif it was broken meant we cannot then even call ourselves the United Kingdom.
What a way forward that is.
I think not.

No wonder the Scots have so much distrust of most in Westminster.

Because the attitude towards other nations that has Brexit voters in England wanting to leave the EU applies to Scotland as well. It always has . The irony is that the smaller percentage of Brexit voters that do exist in Scotland, tend to be hardcore flag-clad Unionists.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Yeah, why get governed by a parliament you have a vote in and be part of what's basically the same country (come on, admit it), when you can be ruled by people you have no vote for, implementing rules from afar.

To believe that you either have to vastly over-estimate the control that the EU has over everyday decisions within member countries (common for Brexiteers, to be fair), or vastly UNDER estimate the control that Westminster has over everyday decisions in Scotland.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Scotland didn't vote to leave the EU .... and to be quite frank Livia, your attitude toward Scottish issues is exactly the reason why Scotland has problems with being governed from westminster

MY attitude LOL.... They may have problems being governed by Westminster Bots, but they have no problem taking the money - and more per head of capita than any other country in the UK. And the barely veiled anti-English sentiment (and that's putting it mildly) is woven through the whole Independence lobby like a tartan blanket and yet it's MY attitude that's causing the problems? The Anti-English lobby doesn't make up the whole of the Scottish population, but it is certainly the loudest section. And I say this having been all over Scotland and experienced quite a lot of anti-English bile. For the sake of balance, I've also been welcomed and made friends in Scotland... I'm not talking about the whole population... but this is me justifying myself because this is TiBB. And well, you know...

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

MY attitude LOL.... They may have problems being governed by Westminster Bots, but they have no problem taking the money - and more per head of capita than any other country in the UK. And the barely veiled anti-English sentiment (and that's putting it mildly) is woven through the whole Independence lobby like a tartan blanket and yet it's MY attitude that's causing the problems? The Anti-English lobby doesn't make up the whole of the Scottish population, but it is certainly the loudest section. And I say this having been all over Scotland and experienced quite a lot of anti-English bile. For the sake of balance, I've also been welcomed and made friends in Scotland... I'm not talking about the whole population... but this is me justifying myself because this is TiBB. And well, you know...

My wife is English, has lived and worked in Scotland for 8 years and has literally never experienced any "anti-English bile". Yet you've experienced "quite a lot" on visits. That's a bit odd, isn't it.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

My wife is English, has lived and worked in Scotland for 8 years and has literally never experienced any "anti-English bile". Yet you've experienced "quite a lot" on visits. That's a bit odd, isn't it.

Perhaps it was something you said, Livia .

We visit Scotland a LOT and have met with anti - English bile several times ,We were in Aviemore on the night the results of the referendum came in ,the next day we were in a restaurant having a meal and a Scotsman stood at the desk said so we could here "Its THIER fault (pointing at our table ) we are leaving the EU fecking English bar stewards ( but he used the real words ) " we ate up and left, the higher up you go in Scotland the more anti English they are .. We stayed in a cottage in Ullapool and the English lady who owned it told us she had been there 15 yrs and a lot of the locals still never spoke to her ,she said they don't accept the English buying properties in the Highlands