[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

An attempted ban on all muslims, calling countries ****holes, demeaning latinos may not be genocide, but it enables it.

He is also complicit in the dispossession of the Palistinians

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

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If I don't like one black person, so call him a dumb N, is that ok because I didn't mean all black people?

What has Trump said that's comparable to calling someone the N-word?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

What has Trump said that's comparable to calling someone the N-word?

Didn't he suggest all mexicans were rapists?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

What has Trump said that's comparable to calling someone the N-word?

Well apparently there are apprentice tapes under lock that has a fairly liberal use of the N word in them, but that's not the point. My point was on whether insulting 1 person in a racist way was ok, because it's not all of them. Which incidentally was the point you were making.

I think calling them rapists, and using infestation/invasion rhetoric on par with the Nazi dehumanisation of the Jews, is a pretty good example.

His dismantling of their justice service, replacing career politicians who've worked with both sides, for incompetent people who's only quality is loyalty to trump, is another sign of authoritarianism.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Didn't he suggest all mexicans were rapists?

Nope!

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Well apparently there are apprentice tapes under lock that has a fairly liberal use of the N word in them, but that's not the point. My point was on whether insulting 1 person in a racist way was ok, because it's not all of them. Which incidentally was the point you were making.

Who did he insult in a racist way?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Who did he insult in a racist way?

Is this a serious question? This isn't good faith discussion. Even American conservatives acknowledge trumps racism.

Telling women of colour to go back from where they came from is a racist trope used for generations. I'm quite sure if you saw an iphone clip of a person on the tube saying the same things as he does, you'd have the honesty to recognise it for what it is.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Is this a serious question? This isn't good faith discussion. Even American conservatives acknowledge trumps racism.

Telling women of colour to go back from where they came from is a racist trope used for generations. I'm quite sure if you saw an iphone clip of a person on the tube saying the same things as he does, you'd have the honesty to recognise it for what it is.

Do you mean the time he suggested they go and sort out their countries of origin, and then return home to the USA?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Nope!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-...ks-of-mexicans

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Do you mean the time he suggested they go and sort out their countries of origin, and then return home to the USA?

Ahh yes, there is nothing he can say that can't be excused by those who share his abhorrent views.

We all remember the chants as he stood in silent approval, of "send her back, send her back, then welcome her on her return home to the USA".

[The Slim Reaper]

What about the time he refused to rent out his apartments to black people? Was that racist?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-...ks-of-mexicans

Oh wow, a collection of out of context clips. Very convincing.

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Ahh yes, there is nothing he can say that can't be excused by those who share his abhorrent views.

We all remember the chants as he stood in silent approval, of "send her back, send her back, then welcome her on her return home to the USA".

then he told them to stop. He didn't orchestrate the chants.

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

What about the time he refused to rent out his apartments to black people? Was that racist?

That was his father.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Oh wow, a collection of out of context clips. Very convincing.


then he told them to stop. He didn't orchestrate the chants.


That was his father.

No, he didn't tell them to stop, he stood there for 13 seconds as he breathed it all in.

It wasn't his father - who was also in the KKK and did the same things, but DT also had the no black policy.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

but DT also had the no black policy.

I've not heard this before, how do you know?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I've not heard this before, how do you know?

He signed an agreement in 1975 stating he wouldn't discriminate against black people, this was after he'd been sued under the fair housing act in 73 for discriminating against black people.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

He signed an agreement in 1975 stating he wouldn't discriminate against black people, this was after he'd been sued under the fair housing act in 73 for discriminating against black people.

Oh yeah, the time he was working under his father?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-...ks-of-mexicans

Kizzy its "Some" Mexicans
Trump missed that out
its the way he talks

[Withano]

SD&N 2019

Everyone: common, sensible opinion
Oliver: actually no, the opposite is true
Everyone: no
Oliver: mmhm

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Oh yeah, the time he was working under his father?

...as president of Trump management.

I have no idea what point you're actually trying to make here, Oliver but he wasn't the subservient tea boy. If you're president of a company, then you're responsible for it.

You're lying to yourself with this constant rationalisation of his racism.

Let me turn this around, do you think he's done or said anything racist (I'll even make this easier for you), since 2015?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

Kizzy its "Some" Mexicans
Trump missed that out
its the way he talks

The cult of trump; where there isn't anything they won't do to protect themselves from reality. If you have even the slightest interest in the truth, then his speech gave the game away. He said exactly what he wanted to say.

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

The cult of trump; where there isn't anything they won't do to protect themselves from reality. If you have even the slightest interest in the truth, then his speech gave the game away. He said exactly what he wanted to say.

Sure back in 2016 he was angry.

[bots]

Originally Posted by arista

Sure back in 2016 he was angry.

and he is still angry now

can't be good for an unfit man of his age

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

Sure back in 2016 he was angry.

So? And by agreeing with me, you've just undone your previous argument that he didn't mean it. Now it's because he was angry. At any point do you start holding him accountable, or do you just make more excuses for him?

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

So? And by agreeing with me, you've just undone your previous argument that he didn't mean it. Now it's because he was angry. At any point do you start holding him accountable, or do you just make more excuses for him?

No
he later said what he meant
"some" illegal Mexicans are rapists

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

and he is still angry now

can't be good for an unfit man of his age

Its the way he rolls