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Old 17-07-2020, 03:06 PM #1
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Again the video taker is making the incident ten times worse simply by filming.
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Again the video taker is making the incident ten times worse simply by filming.
I'm sure if you asked the guy being arrested, he's thankful it's being filmed. He shouldn't be kneeling on his neck.
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He is not even kneeling on his neck he is hold his head down with his hand.
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His knee was on his head not his neck.
Potato shaped people tend not to have necks.

Anyway these police need to be a lot more careful.
Restraining people like that is not a good look.
Better training?

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tbh cops should have bodycams which are impossible for them to manually turn off, would be much easier to hold them to account, and the footage would be more reliable than an out of context phone clip.
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Both police officers doing a great job.

We saw a few weeks ago when they get surrounded while trying to detain a suspect.
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It’s just American cops though, we don’t have this problem, have we been lied to again?
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It’s just American cops though, we don’t have this problem, have we been lied to again?
It's not comparable.
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He is not even kneeling on his neck he is hold his head down with his hand.
You can see his leg is pushed into his shoulder, meaning he's on his neck, not his head, his head starts a bit higher up.
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Both police officers doing a great job.

We saw a few weeks ago when they get surrounded while trying to detain a suspect.
What does being surrounded have to do with anything. If a group surrounded me as I do my work, I wouldn't start kneeling on one of their necks. They are public servants.
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It's not comparable.
Is it not?
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What does being surrounded have to do with anything. If a group surrounded me as I do my work, I wouldn't start kneeling on one of their necks. They are public servants.
He was resisting arrest and he was not on he’s neck get a pair of glasses , we have seen police attacked while doing their job.
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He certainly looked like he was kneeling on his head at the beginning but then he got off him. Maybe the police are trained to do this when restraining people..but in light of what happened maybe they should refrain from doing it.
What was also despicable was the grief those members of the public were giving the police...

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He is not even kneeling on his neck he is hold his head down with his hand.
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He was resisting arrest and he was not on he’s neck get a pair of glasses , we have seen police attacked while doing their job.
His knee is very clearly on his neck. Are you blind?
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Is it not?
You honestly think the Police brutality in the US is comparable to that in the UK?
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For a balanced look here;

He is clearly not kneeling on his neck other than for less than a second at one point - although I think he might have moved away from his neck at that point because someone pointed out the obvious implications.

I do think they are being otherwise a bit heavy-handed, yes, and they're doing a crap job of de-escalating.
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For a balanced look here;

He is clearly not kneeling on his neck other than for less than a second at one point - although I think he might have moved away from his neck at that point because someone pointed out the obvious implications.

I do think they are being otherwise a bit heavy-handed, yes, and they're doing a crap job of de-escalating.
More like 20 seconds
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People will see what they want to see. It's why trial by jury is flawed... not that I have a better suggestion.
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For most of it he's kneeling on his head, unless he has an ear on his neck. Don't get me wrong - I'm not advocating for kneeling on anyone's HEAD either and as I said they're being heavy-handed regardless. I do think accuracy is important though, you can't make a firm argument when it's easily refutable with actual visual evidence. His knee is on the side of his head and jaw - that's bad enough - we don't have to pretend it's on his neck to "make it worse" because then people can just say "Umm no it's not" and move on. It feels like clickbait. You could just say, "cops kneel on black man's head" - it's shocking enough.
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For most of it he's kneeling on his head, unless he has an ear on his neck. Don't get me wrong - I'm not advocating for kneeling on anyone's HEAD either and as I said they're being heavy-handed regardless. I do think accuracy is important though, you can't make a firm argument when it's easily refutable with actual visual evidence. His knee is on the side of his head and jaw - that's bad enough - we don't have to pretend it's on his neck to "make it worse" because then people can just say "Umm no it's not" and move on. It feels like clickbait. You could just say, "cops kneel on black man's head" - it's shocking enough.
When he's on his neck, it's a bit difficult to say he's on his head. Clickbait? Sure.
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Really...why are they disgusting?
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His knee is very clearly on his neck. Are you blind?

Maybe you should watch it again...look where his teeth are in relation to the officers knee...he would be kneeling on his ear/head...not neck.
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Really...why are they disgusting?
Because they’re holding a handcuffed man down and kneeling on his head/neck, it’s not great is it?
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