[Ammi]

...oh I meant to say as well..season 1, episode 2 spoiler...

Spoiler:

....when Mikkel ‘returns’ and goes to his home but it’s no longer his home...I guess he’s become a time traveller and that’s why he never could be found/he’s going back to his home in a different time...?...with the ears and the eyes of the children, being burnt and exploded...that’s what happens in the time machine...?...

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

We loved the first season be we watched it on release, and I think there was like 18 months between season 1 and 2... so by the time S2 rolled round and we watched the first ep, we had to stop half way through because we had no idea what was going on . Will need to watch it again now that the whole thing's out, and rewatch season 1 first.

Subbed over dubbed though always . The show has a very "German" feel to it, doesn't feel right to have them speaking anything other than German .

We didn't discover it till the whole thing was out so were able to do a total binge....... I still had Gav asking me who was who every 5 minutes though

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...oh I meant to say as well..season 1, episode 2 spoiler...

Spoiler:

....when Mikkel ‘returns’ and goes to his home but it’s no longer his home...I guess he’s become a time traveller and that’s why he never could be found/he’s going back to his home in a different time...?...with the ears and the eyes of the children, being burnt and exploded...that’s what happens in the time machine...?...

Spoiler:

You will have to wait and see........

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

We didn't discover it till the whole thing was out so were able to do a total binge....... I still had Gav asking me who was who every 5 minutes though

I did find myself mixing up characters - I think some of them look quite similar?

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I did find myself mixing up characters - I think some of them look quite similar?

Spoiler:

I thought they did an excellent job getting actors who looked alike though for the characters at different ages (I read some where that a couple of them were actually fathers and sons

[Ammi]

Spoiler:

...it can’t be time travelling because they’re all living in 1986, the year hasn’t changed...so maybe a parallel universe, type thing...but time travelling as well because it’s showing them older and younger...ughhh, I need to watch this...

[ChristmasNeeve]

How many episodes in are you Ammi?

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

We loved the first season be we watched it on release, and I think there was like 18 months between season 1 and 2... so by the time S2 rolled round and we watched the first ep, we had to stop half way through because we had no idea what was going on . Will need to watch it again now that the whole thing's out, and rewatch season 1 first.

Subbed over dubbed though always . The show has a very "German" feel to it, doesn't feel right to have them speaking anything other than German .

I get too distracted to read subtitles also my eye sight isn't fantastic either. I did think the dubbing worked well with German though because English looks similar to German when it's spoken, the voices suited the characters too i thought. It was much better than Money Heist but I actually found the bad dubbing added to the charm of that

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Ammi

Spoiler:

...it can’t be time travelling because they’re all living in 1986, the year hasn’t changed...so maybe a parallel universe, type thing...but time travelling as well because it’s showing them older and younger...ughhh, I need to watch this...

Spoiler:

(If I'm remembering it right) the starting year is meant to be modern times (2019 - actually a couple of years in the future when the series was first released)?

I know it does still FEEL like it's old-fashioned-ish but I'm sure the dates are explicitly mentioned. Also the teenagers have smartphones etc.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Spoiler:

Oh yes I misunderstood what Ammi was saying there, yeah it's definitely 2019 at the "normal" year

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

How many episodes in are you Ammi?

...I’m just about to watch episode 5...

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I’m just about to watch episode 5...

You're flying through it

[Ammi]

Spoiler:

...I don’t get 2019, in the time that Mikkel went home...I thought he was time travelling at first but he was in 1986 and when he asked the police officer, he was in 1986 as well, but didn’t know him...so then I’m thinking that it’s more, a parallel universe...but it’s still time because they’re older and younger versions of themselves.../...confusing...and Ariadne's thread has been mentioned ...so it makes sense that a trail is being followed back and forward through a maze/time gateway...the sheep and the birds are confusing, are they in the time maze as well and not surviving it....

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You're flying through it

...I’m totally gripped......

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Ammi

Spoiler:

...I don’t get 2019, in the time that Mikkel went home...I thought he was time travelling at first but he was in 1986 and when he asked the police officer, he was in 1986 as well, but didn’t know him...so then I’m thinking that it’s more, a parallel universe...but it’s still time because they’re older and younger versions of themselves.../...confusing...and Ariadne's thread has been mentioned ...so it makes sense that a trail is being followed back and forward through a maze/time gateway...the sheep and the birds are confusing, are they in the time maze as well and not surviving it....

Spoiler:

No Mikkel was originally in 2019 and he went back to 1986

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Ammi

Spoiler:

...I don’t get 2019, in the time that Mikkel went home...I thought he was time travelling at first but he was in 1986 and when he asked the police officer, he was in 1986 as well, but didn’t know him...so then I’m thinking that it’s more, a parallel universe...but it’s still time because they’re older and younger versions of themselves.../...confusing...and Ariadne's thread has been mentioned ...so it makes sense that a trail is being followed back and forward through a maze/time gateway...the sheep and the birds are confusing, are they in the time maze as well and not surviving it....

Nooo... (spoilers below are for anyone who hasn't watched, not for Ammi who is just confused and should know these parts )

Spoiler:

Mikkel (the son of Ulrich) is from 2019 and got stuck in 1986. It's Ulrich's younger brother, Mads, who went missing in 1986 (and whose body turned up in 2019)

[ChristmasNeeve]

For TS (don't read this Ammi)

Spoiler:

Would Mads' body have turned up by episode 4? Is that what's confusing Ammi or is that an actual spoiler?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Spoiler:

I thought they did an excellent job getting actors who looked alike though for the characters at different ages (I read some where that a couple of them were actually fathers and sons

Spoiler:

I legitimately thought the older imprisoned Ulrich was the same actor in prosthetics. The resemblances between actors is amazing in this show.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Spoiler:

I legitimately thought the older imprisoned Ulrich was the same actor in prosthetics. The resemblances between actors is amazing in this show.

Spoiler:

Yeah same but he also looked like he could be native American

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Spoiler:

Yeah same but he also looked like he could be native American

Spoiler:

I assumed it was heavy makeup to make his skin look leathery which feels quite mean to say now that I know that it was a real, seperate person

[Ammi]

...I’m not reading any of the spoilers, don’t worry...I want this to unfold naturally...

...so...

Spoiler:

...I’m not sure of all of the names yet, but Hannah, is it...?...telling her father that Katharina was raped...so she’s always been very possessive of Ulrich and very jealous and very vengeful as well...and he’s just brutally ended their affair...I have a bad feeling now...

[Ammi]

...season 1, episode 6 spoiler...

Spoiler:

...when Katharina called into the radio show...

..... I don't want to look away anymore and you shouldn't either...this city is sick, Winden is like a festering wound and we're all part of it....


....while keep switching the screen to him finding Regina’s mammogram and her ‘festering wound...’...that’s so well done, really hit you...

[Ammi]

Spoiler:

...OMG, Ulrich killed Helge...I was not expecting that at all, that was so brutal and upsetting to watch...

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I’m not reading any of the spoilers, don’t worry...I want this to unfold naturally...[/SPOILER]

I hope you read the one that wasn't actually a spoiler and was causing confusion! I'll just post it since it's not a spoiler;

Mikkel is from 2019 and travelled back to 1986. It was Ulrich's brother Mads who went missing in 1986, not Mikkel.

[Ammi]

...thank you for that, TS...I hadn’t seen it being posted but I had realised...I’m finding some of it quite hard because it’s so atmospheric in that the screen is literally dark, too dark to see everything...so...

Spoiler:

...is Ulrich dead, was that him in the car....?....I still don’t understand how Helge can still be alive, I mean that’s just not possible and he’s walking around with his injuries...Katherina, younger Katherina is pretty grim and a bully, which is what older Regina meant when she said to the children...‘that’s your real mother...’... in the woods when Alesandra has the gun and stopped her, Katherina was pretty awful to Regina and a complete bully...I’m just starting Season 2 now, when young Noah killed...(not sure of the name..)...with a pick axe....grim...