[Liam-]

Everyone’s assuming she hasn’t previously discussed this issue with her parents, I have more sympathy for a person who was clearly affected by something as a child than the people who affected her, whether it was intentional or not.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Everyone’s assuming she hasn’t previously discussed this issue with her parents, I have more sympathy for a person who was clearly affected by something as a child than the people who affected her, whether it was intentional or not.

Even if she has what’s the point of having a go like that, if she wanted to get her point across she could have put it in a different way, it looked to me like she wanted to put the knife in, helped along by Granny Gloria who was loving the drama, if she had a decent relationship with her parents she wouldn’t be slagging them on day time TV, feels more like revenge, maybe the allowance has been stopped!

[Liam-]

Jesus, compassion and understanding has gone out the window then these days

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The DM have been on this story for a few days now

Spoiler:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...s-parents.html

very little sympathy for her reading the comments

Shocking given the readership

[Liam-]

If she was skinny or conventionally attractive people would be on her side

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

If she was skinny or conventionally attractive people would be on her side

That's weird logic

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Women can be misogynistic too yes.

You mentioned him hiding his sexuality as a reason someone shouldn’t take parenting advice from him, sorry, that is dubious imo.

You're projecting again ...don't presume my intention. I explained I highlighted that to show parents don't always make the best choices, they do what they feel is best at the time. After if that is found to be wrong then you talk it out as adults.

This does not appear to have happened with honey or if it has not very effectively as she still seems very hurt and angry. Which is why this televised venting is imo counterproductive.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Liam-

If she was skinny or conventionally attractive people would be on her side

If she was skinny people might find it more believable she knew anything about diets

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That's weird logic

Not really, people in general seem to have a very low tolerance for overweight people, if she was skinny and pretty and was saying dieting culture was toxic and her parents damaged her by pursuing that for her at a young age, guaranteed she would have a lot more sympathy and understanding, it’s the way society works these days.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You're projecting again ...don't presume my intention. I explained I highlighted that to show parents don't always make the best choices, they do what they feel is best at the time. After if that is found to be wrong then you talk it out as adults.

This does not appear to have happened with honey or if it has not very effectively as she still seems very hurt and angry. Which is why this televised venting is imo counterproductive.

Projecting what? I’m giving my opinion on your opinion, that’s what we’re all doing

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Jesus, compassion and understanding has gone out the window then these days

It hasn't. . I have a lot of compassion for her, it's horrible to see how affected she is, I just fail to see how this will help her reconcile her emotional pain.
You hurt me so now I'm going to hurt you?.. what other message is there to get from this? Just pointing fingers isn't helping anyone.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Projecting what? I’m giving my opinion on your opinion, that’s what we’re all doing

Yes well I've just clarified my opinion for you as you seem to be misinterpretating what I'm saying and making all kinds of accusations!

So far I'm a misogynistic homophobe for giving MY opinion.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I’m in Kizzy’s corner

Watched the clip, she seems very angry, watching JR over the years he always spoke about his kids and dogs in a loving way, don’t know much about his wife, but Honey comes across as a bit spoiled, would she rather they have taken her to Maccies D to comfort eat, ‘diets’ were not the right way to go but 10 years ago ‘diets’ were very popular and cutting calories is a sure fire way to lose weight...now healthy eating is more the norm than bingeing and starving, and as for Gloria nodding along ..give me strength....she knows what it’s like to lose a child so to be supporting this rather angry woman in slurring her parents on day time TV was crass. Her parents must be very upset by her actions

Can we have some kind of award for this momentous occasion?...

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It hasn't. . I have a lot of compassion for her, it's horrible to see how affected she is, I just fail to see how this will help her reconcile her emotional pain.
You hurt me so now I'm going to hurt you?.. what other message is there to get from this? Just pointing fingers isn't helping anyone.

She went on there to talk about her experiences and her opinion on something that is a concern for countless people across the country, I doubt she went on there with the aim of hurting her parents

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Not really, people in general seem to have a very low tolerance for overweight people, if she was skinny and pretty and was saying dieting culture was toxic and her parents damaged her by pursuing that for her at a young age, guaranteed she would have a lot more sympathy and understanding, it’s the way society works these days.

That's very fuzzy logic Liam, it says more about your view than anyone's tbh. Imo whatever size she is if she's hurt she's hurt.

[Dogeatdog]

Originally Posted by Liam-

She went on there to talk about her experiences and her opinion on something that is a concern for countless people across the country, I doubt she went on there with the aim of hurting her parents

I think she should’ve still considered her parents feelings though. She may have discussed with them what she intended on saying during this interview (obviously we don’t know) but if I was her parents I’d still feel a bit hurt by what she said regardless whether a discussion took place beforehand or not.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Liam-

If she was skinny or conventionally attractive people would be on her side

Funnily enough about two weeks ago there was a very attractive skinny woman being interviewed on This Morning claiming she wouldn’t hire an overweight person, I didn’t agree with her either

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Can we have some kind of award for this momentous occasion?...

Yes ..Josy ???

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Not really, people in general seem to have a very low tolerance for overweight people, if she was skinny and pretty and was saying dieting culture was toxic and her parents damaged her by pursuing that for her at a young age, guaranteed she would have a lot more sympathy and understanding, it’s the way society works these days.

If she was skinny and pretty and women disagreed with her we'd be accused of being jealous, lose/lose

[Kizzy]

I'm sorry to say...I read the mail article. (I'm going to hell)

And yes I still think she's a fat whingy brat, sat there in a 500 quid frock purporting to be a body image activist.
Wearing pink latex with 'real' on it? Feeling proud she inspired someone to throw their scales away..

It's a fact , being overweight is a big risk to your health, it may not seem it at 22, you're young and supple, for now. Fast forward another 20yrs, now your joints ache you have early onset arthritis, diabetes and you're in daily pain that requires medication.

How about when bleating about the dangers of bad advice you take a listen to yourself Honey? Body confidence is one thing but advocating a size that may jeopardise your future health THAT is toxic.

I don't care what her parents said you watch in a few years when the realities of being overweight start to take their toll she'll do what EVERY other fat and proud celeb has done and lose weight!

Unfortunately it may not be as easy for some of those she's 'influenced' with her plus size instagram photoshoots spilling out of the latest must have outfit.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Women can be misogynistic too yes.

Oh don't even bother.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Does it? To people who actually do share/sell trashy stories about their lives.

Imo family therapy would've been a better way to go, that way her parents would have been able to hear and absorb how hurt she was without feeling judged by a load of over opinionated piss heads.

I was referring to your dismissive comments about "Loose Women" sharing stories of depression, I don't know if Jonathan Ross' daughter has depression.

Either way, it being discussed publicly helps reduce stigma and get people to seek help. Only a good thing.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I was referring to your dismissive comments about "Loose Women" sharing stories of depression, I don't know if Jonathan Ross' daughter has depression.

Either way, it being discussed publicly helps reduce stigma and get people to seek help. Only a good thing.

Who said she did, reduces the stigma of what? What does she need help for, she's a body positivity inluencer with 1000s of instagram followers. As she says she's more confident in her own skin than her leaner friends... so where's the issue?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Everyone’s assuming she hasn’t previously discussed this issue with her parents, I have more sympathy for a person who was clearly affected by something as a child than the people who affected her, whether it was intentional or not.

...I guess that’s my main thought, Liam...that this is maybe something that she’d already discussed with her parents, that this would be ‘her point of debate‘ as it were when she knew that she would be on Loose Women...?...and it has indeed caught media attention ...(...and obviously we’re discussing it now...)....and that it was something that they are fine with....I read on DS that her dad had been asked for comment, so it’ll be interesting to see if he adds anything to it publicly....anyways, it’s one of those things for me when I feel for both ‘sides’ as it were...the ‘diet advice’ offered by her parents obviously had a very negative impact on her and that’s very sad......and her parent’s own sadness at that time would have come from seeing the child they loved so much, being so unhappy and hating herself so much....when all they would be able to see themselves was a most beautiful daughter...?...and all they would have wanted to see was that daughter’s happiness...I think at times as well when someone feels so low and miserable etc as Honey did...any advice might feel ‘insane and toxic’ just because some of it would be her own personal perspective as well and how she herself thought processes things etc...so it’s difficult because it’s never a one size fits all, type thing...for some people and some teenagers...?...diet advice would be a positive, life changing, type thing....I still have a dislike of the word diet in that context but you know what I mean....

....anyways, they all seem like a lovely and loving family and she’s trying to help others now to a better body confidence place......hopefully, no one will find her ‘influencing’ insane or toxic...but I think that the insane and toxic can sometimes come from within ourselves of just not always being in a place of receiving any ‘positive advice‘ yet...

[Cherie]

She said on that interview that 'she didn't choose her parents' and that her picture was taken at events she attended with them without her consent and posted online which is fair comment when she was little (apart from choosing her parents as no one can do that) , I wonder why she attended events at say age 16 when she could have stayed at home?

Anyhow I think it shows a lack of respect for her parents, it's reported that JR and his wife treated their kids more like friends than children, maybe that is the issue here