[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

When you’re saying the complete opposite of nice things about people it’s exactly the word to use. People that have such an issue with the pair of them on here are completely irrational with their opinions of them.

No its not...hate is a strong word. Its like saying all those who like her LOVE her. Its the extreme.
You can Like and Dislike...or you can Love or Hate.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Harry and Meghan are a "present issue".



Good thing you don't have real problems.

Well since the claims we are discussing came out yesterday I would say it was a very present issue....

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...to be fair, though...the substance was debated in this all being fake news as it were and just an average Monday for the couple...

Yes Ammi...an average Monday with a Court case looming today

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Swan

Why are you twisting what she said? She has a point, you bring race into everything. I can you assure most of the dislike has NOTHING to do with her race.

If, for example, a white person said they didn't like Kayne West, would you automatically assume it was because of his race, or because he's an idiot? No of course you wouldn't assume racism, because the man is an unlikable attention seeking fool. Well some people think Megan is an unlikable attention fool, it's sometimes that simple Dezzy. It's not all about race!

You cannot, you can assume and that is all. To think that her race doesn't play a part in why she gets hate is quite naive.

I only bring up race in issues of racism, why are you being so defensive? Why are you reacting so angrily to issues of race being brought up? It makes no sense to get this wound up about an issue being mentioned. You should consider why that is the case.

I like how you threw a fit about me apparently twisting Rustic's words and then, not a few sentences later, you're twisting my words to make out that I'm saying you can't dislike a black person without being racist. Some self awareness never hurt anyone, Swan.

[jet]

IMO I find the general attitude by some of Meghan being mixed race makes her automatically prone to dislike and criticism so patronising and disgusting. It’s as if her skin colour is all she is, and her characteristics, personality, essence, behaviour, actions, whether perceived as unlikeable or otherwise are not applicable or an afterthought.
Some obviously racist remarks were reported and whole swathes of the press and people are lumped together as guilty.
So much for the aim of just seeing people as people, whatever your opinion of them, regardless of skin colour. Those who continually dwell on perceived ‘differences’ are part of the problem.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Swan

Well that's another issue too. Just because you don't like someone, doesn't mean you hate the person. The word 'hate' is thrown around way too much in these Megan and Harry threads.

When you hate someone for everything they do and without ceasing, that is hatred and it's irrational hatred. Meghan could save a hundred orphans from a burning building and if she was caught on camera doing it, the people that base their lives around hating her would say she only did it because the cameras were on her and that she did it for attention.

It's just irrational no matter how you cut it. If someone dislike someone regardless of what they do and do 'research' (reading gossip rags) to fuel that hatred then that is irrational hatred. They're looking for reasons to hate on that person and will twist any situation to make them look bad. To say it isn't is just ignoring the reality of the situation.

This forum isn't full of Meghan fans, most of us are simply perturbed by the level of hate this woman gets and feel the need to counteract that. We could all go on with our lives and not care otherwise can the people in this world who hate her say the same?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jet

IMO I find the general attitude by some of Meghan being mixed race makes her automatically prone to dislike and criticism so patronising and disgusting. It’s as if her skin colour is all she is, and her characteristics, personality, essence, behaviour, actions, whether perceived as unlikeable or otherwise are not applicable or an afterthought.
Some obviously racist remarks were reported and whole swathes of the press and people are lumped together as guilty.
So much for the aim of just seeing people as people, whatever your opinion of them, regardless of skin colour. Those who continually dwell on perceived ‘differences’ are part of the problem.

It will always make me laugh when people who are desperate to brush racism under the carpet where it can fester unseen from their view call people who live in reality racist for pointing out that racism is in fact a real and everpresent issue.

It stinks of a pre-emptive and telling 'I know you are, but what am I?' mentality.

Like with Swan, ask yourself why you get so wound up about issues of race being discussed.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

When you hate someone for everything they do and without ceasing, that is hatred and it's irrational hatred. Meghan could save a hundred orphans from a burning building and if she was caught on camera doing it, the people that base their lives around hating her would say she only did it because the cameras were on her and that she did it for attention.

It's just irrational no matter how you cut it. If someone dislike someone regardless of what they do and do 'research' (reading gossip rags) to fuel that hatred then that is irrational hatred. They're looking for reasons to hate on that person and will twist any situation to make them look bad. To say it isn't is just ignoring the reality of the situation.

This forum isn't full of Meghan fans, most of us are simply perturbed by the level of hate this woman gets and feel the need to counteract that. We could all go on with our lives and not care otherwise can the people in this world who hate her say the same?

More dram....

Come on admit it, you are a big Meg fan.

[Tom4784]

If it wasn't for the irrational hatred, I wouldn't speak or think of her. I just think it's gross that everything she does is a reason to hate her regardless of if it makes sense or not.

I pity anyone who is a figure of hate to the obsessed for simply existing. It's just grim. Falsely painting me as a fan won't make your hatred towards her any less strange.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It will always make me laugh when people who are desperate to brush racism under the carpet where it can fester unseen from their view call people who live in reality racist for pointing out that racism is in fact a real and everpresent issue.

It stinks of a pre-emptive and telling 'I know you are, but what am I?' mentality.

Like with Swan, ask yourself why you get so wound up about issues of race being discussed.

Thinking you know what is in other peoples minds again? Wrong.
It's the first time I've even mentioned race on this forum, in this thread or any other thread. It's not something I ever think about or even notice, I go by character, not colour.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by jet

IMO I find the general attitude by some of Meghan being mixed race makes her automatically prone to dislike and criticism so patronising and disgusting. It’s as if her skin colour is all she is, and her characteristics, personality, essence, behaviour, actions, whether perceived as unlikeable or otherwise are not applicable or an afterthought.
Some obviously racist remarks were reported and whole swathes of the press and people are lumped together as guilty.
So much for the aim of just seeing people as people, whatever your opinion of them, regardless of skin colour. Those who continually dwell on perceived ‘differences’ are part of the problem.

Many who are ‘fans’ would have no interest if she were white

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by jet

Thinking you know what is in other peoples minds again? Wrong.
It's the first time I've even mentioned race on this forum, in this thread or any other thread. It's not something I ever think about or even notice, I go by character, not colour.

This is what you do where Meghan and Harry are concerned.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

If it wasn't for the irrational hatred, I wouldn't speak or think of her. I just think it's gross that everything she does is a reason to hate her regardless of if it makes sense or not.

I pity anyone who is a figure of hate to the obsessed for simply existing. It's just grim. Falsely painting me as a fan won't make your hatred towards her any less strange.

...and you painting me as hating Meghan doesn't make it true either. Dislike, yes.
As for obsessed, I pity anyone who is so obsessed with racism, it must be exhausting.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by jet

...and you painting me as hating Meghan doesn't make it true either. Dislike, yes.
As for obsessed, I pity anyone who is so obsessed with racism, it must be exhausting.

Just admit it stop lying to yourself you only come on tibb to bash Meghan for whatever stupid reason even over a netflix deal which is not something to criticise about! She isn’t a criminal, she isn’t a bad person and she hasn’t done anything wrong... she gets more hate than a Prince Andrew which says quite a lot

[jet]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

This is what you do where Meghan and Harry are concerned.

Nope, just educated conclusions arrived at from their actions and reading more reliable material than the comments sections you torture yourself with.

Where do you get your devotion from?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Just admit it stop lying to yourself you only come on tibb to bash Meghan for whatever stupid reason even over a netflix deal which is not something to criticise about! She isn’t a criminal, she isn’t a bad person and she hasn’t done anything wrong... she gets more hate than a Prince Andrew which says quite a lot

I remember a screenshot from Twitter a few days back of someone saying it was strange that Meghan gets more hate than Andrew and then this gammon chimed in with something like 'Well she's more annoying!'

Preying on children is seen as less problematic then an ex-royal just living her life outside of the royal bubble.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jet

...and you painting me as hating Meghan doesn't make it true either. Dislike, yes.
As for obsessed, I pity anyone who is so obsessed with racism, it must be exhausting.

Another 'I know you are but what am I?' response.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by jet

Nope, just educated conclusions arrived at from their actions and reading more reliable material than the comments sections you torture yourself with.

Where do you get your devotion from?

You’ve literally imagined scenarios where you’ve given your own deluded insights into her thinking. It’s irrational.

I don’t have devotion for her I just don’t believe she deserves the level of hatred that is thrown at her for no justified reason, which is something you’ve yet to give.

[jet]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Just admit it stop lying to yourself you only come on tibb to bash Meghan for whatever stupid reason even over a netflix deal which is not something to criticise about! She isn’t a criminal, she isn’t a bad person and she hasn’t done anything wrong... she gets more hate than a Prince Andrew which says quite a lot

If I hated Meghan I would have no problem whatsoever saying so. I said I hated Jeremy Corbyn often enough.
I do dislike Meghan for many reasons. If my dislike of her ever progresses into hatred, which I doubt, I'll be sure to let you know.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Many who are ‘fans’ would have no interest if she were white

Very astute point, Cherie, I believe you are right.
How crazy is that though?

[Tom4784]

She wouldn't get the same level of hatred if she was white, most likely.

Trying to paint people who are repulsed by the utterly insane level of hatred aimed at this woman as her fans is silly. We are simply decent human beings that finds the hatred gross.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

She wouldn't get the same level of hatred if she was white, most likely.

Trying to paint people who are repulsed by the utterly insane level of hatred aimed at this woman as her fans is silly. We are simply decent human beings that finds the hatred gross.

No sillier than painting those who dislike her as racists and haters. If you translate that dislike and criticsm into an 'insane level of hatred' then it could be equally said over and over (but isn't) that those who spend lots, if not more, time defending her are obsessively in love with her and huge fans.

Maybe you read the same comments sections of papers that Glenn talks about and you are carrying your impressions over to this site, for there is no insane hatred here.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

She wouldn't get the same level of hatred if she was white, most likely.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by jet

No sillier than painting those who dislike her as racists and haters. If you translate that dislike and criticsm into an 'insane level of hatred' then it could be equally said over and over (but isn't) that those who spend lots, if not more, time defending her are obsessively in love with her and huge fans.

Maybe you read the same comments sections of papers that Glenn talks about and you are carrying your impressions over to this site, for there is no insane hatred here.

Ok jet if you say so.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jet

No sillier than painting those who dislike her as racists and haters. If you translate that dislike and criticsm into an 'insane level of hatred' then it could be equally said over and over (but isn't) that those who spend lots, if not more, time defending her are obsessively in love with her and huge fans.

Maybe you read the same comments sections of papers that Glenn talks about and you are carrying your impressions over to this site, for there is no insane hatred here.

Do you ever get bored of saying 'I know you are, but what am I' as your go to response?