[bots]

it's a banana republic administration with zero credibility. The doctors were performing to an audience of one when they did their press conferences. They also quoted privacy at any bad issues but were happy to discuss good aspects ... they dodged answering and obfuscated ... is it any wonder people have no faith in what they hear

[Crimson Dynamo]

I do think however and people are forgetting this

If this happened in the Obama presidency at this time they would be doing all they could to make it look as good as it can be. Its a general leader thing that has been going on since humans existed.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I do think however and people are forgetting this

If this happened in the Obama presidency at this time they would be doing all they could to make it look as good as it can be. Its a general leader thing that has been going on since humans existed.

Do you think a putin-esque propaganda video of Obama disembarking from marine one, and ripping his mask off whilst he's still highly contagious and around people would have happened? Do you think Obama would have forced his secret service agents into a confined space with him, so he could take drive to massage his ego?

Of course Obamas administration would have put a positive spin on it, but trump has presided over 200k deaths and gives himself an A+ for the way he's handled the pandemic. There are levels.

[The Slim Reaper]

Whatever side you're on, I think everyone can agree that this is a pretty powerful ad.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Youtube video

makes a great point about all the extreme left showing total disregard for law officers when blm antifa rioters where attacking them

but then (to suit the agenda) all worrying about the protection teams getting covid. could not make it up

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

makes a great point about all the extreme left showing total disregard for law officers when blm antifa rioters where attacking them

but then (to suit the agenda) all worrying about the protection teams getting covid. could not make it up

One was about a fight for equality after the well documented and well known history of the US. Those same law officers were filmed pepper spraying and beating innocent people, and taking others off the streets without ID in unmarked cars.

One was a vanity project.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

One was about a fight for equality after the well documented and well known history of the US. Those same law officers were filmed pepper spraying and beating innocent people, and taking others off the streets without ID in unmarked cars.

One was a vanity project.

a fight for equality

google translate: a chance to loot and smash things up because you are young and dont yet own property or business

[Crimson Dynamo]

[Crimson Dynamo]

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

a fight for equality

google translate: a chance to loot and smash things up because you are young and dont yet own property or business

Just remind me if anything happened in the lead up to the riots and looting. Were they spontaneous, or was there an antecedent?

[MTVN]

A lot of people say the impact Covid had on Boris played a part in him favouring tougher restrictions/taking the virus much more seriously, seems to have had the opposite effect on Trump

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Just remind me if anything happened in the lead up to the riots and looting. Were they spontaneous, or was there an antecedent?

The USA and indeed all democracies have a legal process and courts to deal with issues and they are being dealt with in an adult sensible way. Louts who dont want to abide by the law are just that louts, criminals and rioters.

[bots]

trump knows he is behind in the polls, so this is his make or break strategy to turn it around. If he agreed with the dems now, he would be admitting they were right all along so that's just not a route he can take at this stage. the one he has chosen is his only path as he had already bet everything on it.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The USA and indeed all democracies have a legal process and courts to deal with issues and they are being dealt with in an adult sensible way. Louts who dont want to abide by the law are just that louts, criminals and rioters.

I disagree with ruining peoples property and looting, but I understand how it got to that point. Nothing happens in a vacuum, lt, and treating things as if they do, just misses the point of pretty much everything.

I mean if we want to go down the laws are laws argument then pretty sure you were cheering on Dominic cummings, and when the government tried to illegally prorogue parliament, I don't ever recall you calling them louts and criminals. I've also no doubt you could find me doing exactly the same thing.

We're all hypocrites because we're all human

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

thanks for this piece of information what we all already knew

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

why mention it again and again, this lie is becoming more ridiculous now

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

A lot of people say the impact Covid had on Boris played a part in him favouring tougher restrictions/taking the virus much more seriously, seems to have had the opposite effect on Trump

It knocked Boris on his arse though that's why and scared him. Trump either hasnt had it and this is a ploy for public support or he was lucky and had an uber mild dose so he can't see what all the fuss was about.

As if he wasn't maniacal enough before now he thinks he's invincible! :/

[The Slim Reaper]

[The Slim Reaper]

Trump needs to be careful.

[Oliver_W]

My mum said something interesting - if it was a mild dose, or at least one he shrugs off easily, it'll reinforce the idea that Covid is really minor. She's not a psycho so she didn't wish him dead or to be floored long term, but she hopes it's bad enough for him not to dismiss it

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

My flatmate had it and it Was just a cough. His mother who is 60 caught it off him and had a sore tummy for one day (I know 60 isn’t elderly, but it’s still higher risk).

I understand everyone is different but it has been vastly blown out of proportion for being a deadly lethal disease.

It has a death rate of like 0.1%, and so unless you are vulnerable it’s extremely extremely unlikely to impact you at all.

If people choose to be unhealthy then they are at worse risk, but people making the choice to eat badly/not exercise/stay fit shouldn’t allow the rest of society to suffer imo

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It knocked Boris on his arse though that's why and scared him. Trump either hasnt had it and this is a ploy for public support or he was lucky and had an uber mild dose so he can't see what all the fuss was about.

As if he wasn't maniacal enough before now he thinks he's invincible! :/

he said he might be immune

but i think to be immune you first have to not get the virus

[bots]

all the voices we are hearing at the moment are saying immunity is short term at best even with a vaccine, so unless he plans a monthly injection of the new super drug (which actually wouldn't surprise me) he could get it again in a few months time

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

My flatmate had it and it Was just a cough. His mother who is 60 caught it off him and had a sore tummy for one day (I know 60 isn’t elderly, but it’s still higher risk).

I understand everyone is different but it has been vastly blown out of proportion for being a deadly lethal disease.

It has a death rate of like 0.1%, and so unless you are vulnerable it’s extremely extremely unlikely to impact you at all.

If people choose to be unhealthy then they are at worse risk, but people making the choice to eat badly/not exercise/stay fit shouldn’t allow the rest of society to suffer imo

Tell the families of the million people who have died that it's been blown out of proportion.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Trump needs to be careful.

I do think something like this is a genuine concern, it's been far too short a timeframe from diagnosis-hospitalisation-recovery to think he's totally fine now

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I do think something like this is a genuine concern, it's been far too short a timeframe from diagnosis-hospitalisation-recovery to think he's totally fine now

Agreed, especially in the risk categories he's in. A victory march at this stage is way too premature.

I remember Obama writing something about the election campaigns and talking about how exhausting they were, and he's in shape, gets regular exercise and wasn't fighting off a virus that is potentially deadly. He's nowhere near his full symptoms and he'll be wearing himself down to campaign. It's a dodgy cocktail.