[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You can't say what you would do in that situation unless you have been in that situation, and even then you can only say what you would do because you are not that person nor have you had that person's life. You're building yourself an imaginary high-horse.

If I had to hazard a guess, if Harry could see history repeating itself and with Diana/Meghan comparisons, he may well have been in a state of anxiety/denial about it and putting energy into pretending it wasn't happening. I mean judge him for that if you want, but I personally wouldn't.

Yes I can say thats what I would do...because I would. If my wife and unborn childs life was at risk...I wouldnt hesitate.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Who have I undermined?

[jet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You mean if you scrape the barrel any further you'll start a tunnel to Australia, jet.

When defeated, post a silly jibe. You're only human TS.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

So no one then.

Outstanding input to the discussion as always.

[jet]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Yes I can say thats what I would do...because I would. If my wife and unborn childs life was at risk...I wouldnt hesitate.

Very few would hesitate Rusti. I can't really see any circumstances that would justify not getting help, certainly not in a position where the family have the best professionals readily available. (The Times)
Meghan said she was so desperate she phoned a friend of Diana's (Diana brought into it again) - does she have no supportive and helpful friends of her own to talk to?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I can totally get the feeling of being trapped when you lose control of your life as you knew it. Over this last 12 months I have felt trapped. I'm in my own house, with my son, access to everything I need in regards to hone comforts. But I can't go to see my friends when I want, I can't nip out for a meal, I can't see family members, I can't go on holiday when I want. Now, I'm doing all that because the Government told me too, for health reasons. I know its the right thing to do.....but I have moaned about it constantly I'm bored, I feel trapped even though I know its for the right reasons and will end but doesn't stop me feeling at times like a caged animal. I don't understand why its hard to believe that someone feels trapped when their life takes a massive change of direction.

You've said there quite a bit of how my Mum feels during this present time.

She is grateful to be with me and my Cousin and therefore safe, however being usually fiercely independent has found this very best depressing at times.

My Mum is solidly more sympathetic to Prince Harry and Meghan.
At the time we watched the interview, her words were, what we are having to do, sounds a bit like what Meghan particularly was feeling.
Adding no way could she have lived the Royal life with the duty that's expected..

I certainly can understand how trapped she felt.
She also may not have been sure Prince Harry would step aside with her.
So it's good she was honest and told him of her feelings.

She only said, that once in the Royal web, that was the last time she had her passport, not the last time she saw it.
Meaning anywhere she wanted or needed to go, other than royal duties, she'd need the 'permission', from the institutionalised set up the Royal full duty expectancy is.

It was odd Annie reading your post, I was a bit worried as I for a brief moment thought my Mum had joined the forum.
Apart from the being in your own house as my Mum is in mine, so many words mirrored word almost for word are what I've heard.

Yes however, you can easily feel trapped, even though you can freely walk round a building and grounds, as you say.
So I can understand what Meghan Markle may be indicating there too.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

If anything Joey I think they tried possibly too hard to "not name names" out of a desire to not get anyone specifically in trouble or their face all over the papers, but the effect has unfortunately been a lot of speculation. Often better to just set the record straight and go from there.

I nearly choked on my bacon butty reading that, you can take pretending to be gullible too far TS!

[Glenn.]

This is the problem when your hatred of them runs this deep. You see the absolute worst in EVERYTHING they say and do.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by jet

you can take pretending to be gullible too far TS!

I already said exactly this earlier jet you can't just repeat things back at me with laughing faces and expect to be taken seriously, come on now. Besides, I thought "posting silly jibes" was an admission of defeat

[jet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I already said exactly this earlier jet you can't just repeat things back at me with laughing faces and expect to be taken seriously, come on now. Besides, I thought "posting silly jibes" was an admission of defeat

Didn't see where you said it.
It wasn't a silly jibe, I wanted you to know how hilarious I found your comment and my admiration at your pretense. Take compliments gracefully TS!
*and i really did nearly choke on my bacon butty -

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by jet

Very few would hesitate Rusti. I can't really see any circumstances that would justify not getting help, certainly not in a position where the family have the best professionals readily available. (The Times)

Meghan said she was so desperate she phoned a friend of Diana's (Diana brought into it again) - does she have no supportive and helpful friends of her own to talk to?

How on earth would Meg’s friends have any experience with the Royal family ??


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[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

More strawman arguments.

If someone is holding your passport, they ultimately control it. Again, not a hard concept to grasp. Regardless of the reason, she didn't hold her own passport and would have to go ask for it, any other person would not have to do the same.

You've branded her a liar several times, you've disregarded her words and belittled them at every opportunity. You bring up Africa a lot when she spoke about her own difficulties. You obviously don't believe her struggles and seek to undermine them. I don't need to point out one post, all your posts are similar in that regard and no amount of strawmans will change that.

That was an eye opener when Meghan said all that, i could never imagine doing all that. Must of made her feel more trapped.

But really when we think about it , once they're apart of the royals they've basically given up their regular life pretty much . Which must be a daunting experience.

[Oliver_W]

Spoiler:

Why Meghan left Buckingham Palace
"I couldn't breathe!"

[bots]

it's in pretty poor taste no matter which way you look at it, but thats politics for you

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Spoiler:

Why Meghan left Buckingham Palace
"I couldn't breathe!"

That's tasteless AF
Not funny in the slightest

[Crimson Dynamo]

How dare they say our Queen has hairy legs

[Crimson Dynamo]

Meghan told Oprah 'The Firm' attempted to keep her under effective house arrest.

Things got to the stage, she alleged, when she said: 'I've left the house twice in four months.'

A striking claim. But does it hold water?

There is no official record of her social activities, but on the work front, the Court Circular records Meghan's attendance at official engagements on 73 days in the 17 months between her wedding and the couple's departure for Canada.

Of those days, at least 65 involved leaving her home. There are just two apparent gaps in this hectic schedule, both in 2019: from March 22 to July 6; and from July 14 to September 23.

The first period includes the run-up to Archie's birth, when she travelled to hospital on May 6, plus at least four private outings: to Windsor Castle on May 8, Trooping the Colour and a baseball game in London in June, and Wimbledon on July 4.

In the second period, Meghan managed to holiday abroad four times: in Italy, France, Ibiza and the U.S.

In short, there doesn't appear to be any 'four-month' period when she only left the house twice.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ent-truth.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

Youtube video

[user104658]

Shapiro! LT I really am starting to think that you're a double-agent trying to help out Meghan and Harry

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Shapiro! LT I really am starting to think that you're a double-agent trying to help out Meghan and Harry

There there's Nigel Farage aswell

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

There there's Nigel Farage aswell

as if by magic

Youtube video

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

as if by magic

Youtube video

Nice try
But I'd rather rub sand paper on my eyes than listen to him

[Glenn.]

It’s so embarrassing when people post opinion pieces by the likes of piers Morgan and Nigel garbage.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

It’s so embarrassing when people post opinion pieces by the likes of piers Morgan and Nigel garbage.

as opposed to watching adverts from billionaires in Hollywood and thinking its real?

Id wager that is a little more embarrassing?

Just my opinion of course

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

It’s so embarrassing when people post opinion pieces by the likes of piers Morgan and Nigel garbage.

Confirmation bias warps people's perceptions, they confuse opinion for facts because they like what's being said.